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Nocturne vs Kazumi Subaru

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Eternum Noc and Post-Cannibalism Kazumi are used. Speed is you know what.

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Kazumi magica fan colouration by phoenix saturn-d4adcw4
Nocturne:

Kazumi:

Inconclusive: 6 (Assalt, Kep, Velox, Fate, ABYS, AS)
 
I'm sure.

Scales from witches who can control a fortress/village of people, so hundreds I guess?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Are you sure? How good is her mind manip resistance?
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I'm 99,99% sure someone who watched every episode and movie of MM and updated the pages is sure they don't.
 
Is it good enough to resist mind manip potent enough that it causes your mind to physically collapse in on itself?
 
"His shadowed form ghosted silently toward one of the humans, reaching out with the ethereal tendrils of his consciousness. The cloaked human spasmed as his hands rose to tear at his own head. A bloodcurdling scream ripped through the air, then choked off into silence as the human's mind collapsed into itself."
 
Stuff that the mind manip of witches can do:

Corrupt the mind of someone to a point where they only care about dying.

Taking control of it and turning the person into a puppet.

Corrupting the mind can also basically destroy it.

Kazumi no sells all of that.
 
Oooooh this is gonna be fun. Stuff Noc can do:

Manipulate a person's mind to the point where they literally tear themselves apart in order to escape his influence

Assault people's minds with the nightmares of the countless people he has killed since his existence

Induce fear so potent that in seconds they forget that he is even there
 
Also i need to make a minor adjustment to Noc's profile, even in the real world he has magic nullification
 
Can he force Kazumi to sleep to use the nightmare part? It seems his best bet.

Kazumi resists power null via resistance to Bind (which is a status in Battle Pentagram)
 
No, he just causes nightmares in the real world unless his target is already asleep

That seems like something that should be on her profile...
 
Ye, I should probably add it given that it isn't something that comes to mind when you say "status effect" (it's a part of that and already accepted, only needs a bit of elaboration)
 
Oh wait this is Eternum Noc? How well is she going to handle every attack cutting through space-time?
 
Cutting, probably not (Although it would negate her dura which is good for Noc when she is a higher degree of 7-B). If he can blow her away or something then yes
 
Not that i can think of no...wait is she susceptible to being killed from the inside? Because Noc can do that
 
If you mean something like evisceration, probably wouldn't work, unless it's something particularly gruesome.

Basically if it bypass Mid regen it's incapacitation territory.
 
I mean like turning her insides into smoke:

"He turns to investigate only to be struck by a wild burst of energy arcing out of the nexus. The architect collapses to the floor in a heap, sprawling on the unforgiving cobblestone.

His body shrivels as a noxious trail of thick smoke pours out of his open mouth. It is shivering with life and pulsing with horrors.

It is born of nightmares."
 
Actually, rechecked and magical girls do not need their organs to survive (and Kazumi even less than others due to her nature as a half witch). If he can turn her completely into smoke it would work tho
 
Siiiiiigh, why are they so annoyingly resisant

Okay, last ditch effort, can Noc travel back in time and kill her?
 
Mostly because the guy who made magical girls know witches better than anyone else so it equipped them with what is needed.

Yes. Doesn't need to travel that far either, no versions of Kazumi prior to that one is a big threat for him.
 
Oh, huh, i thought for a second she would have some obscure power that would make her resistant to being killed in the past ovo
 
Huh, well then. Would you like to make an argument for Kazumi? Because Noc's chances have gotten significantly better :p
 
Well considering the key of Kazumi used, she is likely to go for ether time accell (To speed herself up) or Limiti Esterni (Which is a beam of energy which is void manip). But tbf she is kind of an unknown as she hasn't really fought in that form so she could use anything (Although if her behaviour when becoming a magical girl is anything to go by, she does hax fom he start).

The most dangerous stuff is:

Mind manip via Witch Kiss (Which can be used to do the stuff listed above)

Reality Warping that can manipulate non-resistant enemies.

Fantasma Bisbiglio to wipe Noc's memories.

BFR via X-File.

Intangibility Curse that forces him intangible without the ability to return tangible (Basically incap Noc by making him unable to interact with the world.)

There is also Rosso Fantasma to duplicate herself if it comes to a direct fight
 
I mean, "Magic" in PMMM does almost anything if you are proficient enough at it. Asking "Can magic do this" is basically like asking "Can reality warping do it". The answer is "If you are good enough with it"

So yes, i guess. The question is if Noc can negate magic of this kind probably. Can mages in LoL do stuff like that?
 
Well for starters, Noc fodderized dozens of these guys

Now lets see...probably the only thing he hasnt faced is void manip but...

BFR in what way? Noc's space cutting may help with that.

Noc is also kinda intangible already, the only tangible thing about him are the blades on his arms, and his attacks still cut though space-time.

Duplication shouldnt be that much of an issue considering he has attacks that hit multiple opponents simultaneously
 
BFR is opening a book, Noc gets sucked in, then released when Kazumi wants to.

Weapons are affected as well. But I don't think that it blocks space-time cutting.

Well, it's still facing 6 opponents about 3 times stronger than himself

Most straightforward example of combat applicable reality warping from a fodder witch
 
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