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Star Butterfly VS Goku

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How powerful is her reality manipulation? Because that's her ONLY saving chance here. Her durability is so low Goku would surely one-shot her, and he will pretty much ignore her time stop. He also should be much more skilled, and not prone to his common weakness thanks to how Ultra Instinct works. I am giving this fully to Goku.
 
Star for being stronger then other beings who oneshot the embodiment of the universe which contains infinite timelines in it.

@FOR Nah since she can actually slow him down remember Jiren vs hit it slowed down jiren too so I don't see a reason how star with a better timestop wouldn't be able to slow goku down
 
LuckyCharmingStar said:
Star for being stronger then other beings who oneshot the embodiment of the universe which contains infinite timelines in it.

@FOR Nah since she can actually slow him down remember Jiren vs hit it slowed down jiren too so I don't see a reason how star with a better timestop wouldn't be able to slow goku down
1 if it had infinite timelines then she would be 2-A not low 2-C

2 why do you think her's is better then Hit's? Hit improves his to resist the resistance of others.
 
LuckyCharmingStar said:
Star for being stronger then other beings who oneshot the embodiment of the universe which contains infinite timelines in it.
@FOR Nah since she can actually slow him down remember Jiren vs hit it slowed down jiren too so I don't see a reason how star with a better timestop wouldn't be able to slow goku down
Then why isn't she 2-A and this is not closed for being a stomp?

Okay, she has better timestop, that may be bad for Goku. However, going by the stats on her page aside for Strength and barely Range, Goku is superior in every aspect. With speed equallized, Ultra Instinct Goku still is far more skilled and can react and displace far better than Star, pretty much making it a blitz even with speed equallized, and literally would only have to one-shot her, thanks to her 8-C durability.
 
Darkmon cns said:
LuckyCharmingStar said:
Star for being stronger then other beings who oneshot the embodiment of the universe which contains infinite timelines in it.

@FOR Nah since she can actually slow him down remember Jiren vs hit it slowed down jiren too so I don't see a reason how star with a better timestop wouldn't be able to slow goku down
1 if it had infinite timelines then she would be 2-A not low 2-C
2 why do you think her's is better then Hit's? Hit improves his to resist the resistance of others.
1 it was stated here

2 Hit could only freeze one being while star did an universe and it could only be fixed in 4D space
 
LuckyCharmingStar said:
Darkmon cns said:
LuckyCharmingStar said:
Star for being stronger then other beings who oneshot the embodiment of the universe which contains infinite timelines in it.

@FOR Nah since she can actually slow him down remember Jiren vs hit it slowed down jiren too so I don't see a reason how star with a better timestop wouldn't be able to slow goku down
1 if it had infinite timelines then she would be 2-A not low 2-C
2 why do you think her's is better then Hit's? Hit improves his to resist the resistance of others.
1 it was stated here
2 Hit could only freeze one being while star did an universe and it could only be fixed in 4D space
Then there should be a revision thread placing her at 2-A, and this should be locked. IDK why it was made.
 
Is Star only Bas 2-C via Time Stop? if so it could start directly from Time Stop, but does not Goku have a resistance to the Time Stop? I think he can win easily, one shot and this is over .... all depends on the first movement of Star
 
@FoR Well yeah If goku attack her first then she dead but if not then Star take the victory here

so what about an Inconclusive?
 
@FOH What do you mean by "common weakness"? Because one of Goku's weaknesses include not being able to breathe in space.
 
Hit can freeze more then one presen he can do it as a normal time stop, when he dose it on one person it's to counter there resistance.
 
Perhaps. It depends on what Star's mindset is when fighting. If Star is prone to going all out and taking no chance, she will win. If she is relatively reserved, she has no chance. Goku in Ultra Instinct is far more bloodlusted, "faster" (I.E he wastes no movement and makes no hesitation, he goes with the flow and is one with the flow of the universe pretty much), and just would be more likely to instantly make the first move and go all out. This makes him very dangerous, and Star would need an equally to-the-kill disposition to win, does she?
 
yeah this REALLY depends on star's first motions if she doesn't go for her better haxes goku in UI will try to immediately finish the fight without a second thought...literally. Her range is better but again glass canon and with a person basically on auto-pilot its going to depend if she goes for the kill IMMEDIATEDLY
 
I have seen some of the show and she doesn't seem like the kind of person to go straight for the kill.
 
LuckyCharmingStar said:
So for star it would be via magics or bfr and for goku speed,strenght and durability.
If goku can use instant transmission to go from the livings world to the afterlives then he should be able to use it to get back from where ever she would use the dimensional scissors to send him to also goku would react to fast for her to trick him in to a rip made by them.
 
LuckyCharmingStar said:
She could travel travel to another dimensions and set the almighty seeing eye to see what goku is doing and prepare.
It doesn't matter with UI he would react instantly you can't be off guard that's the point.
 
If you are going to give your final answer, write (Goku wins or Star wins or Inconclusive)
 
LuckyCharmingStar said:
Well slow him down and star timestop spells can't be destroyed like jiren did with hit. And then do that what i said b4
No jiren could do that because he has resistance to time stops also the standard assumption for the range of a time stop with no established boundaries last time I checked was universal so star's isn't special. the one he used on jiren was something he first used on goku in there first fight with each other which could stop goku well his other one which would have universal range by the standerd couldn't.
 
Darkmon cns said:
LuckyCharmingStar said:
Well slow him down and star timestop spells can't be destroyed like jiren did with hit. And then do that what i said b4
No jiren could do that because he has resistance to time stops also the standard assumption for the range of a time stop with no established boundaries last time I checked was universal so star's isn't special. the one he used on jiren was something he first used on goku in there first fight with each other which could stop goku well his other one which would have universal range by the standerd couldn't.
Wait where was it stated that goku has resistances tho?
 
Goku only has Time Stop Resistance as SSBKKx10, this is Low 2-C Goku, aka Ultra Instinct. He is still a much better fighter tho, and Star is a glass cannon.
 
So, either Star Time Stops and Reality Warps him to death or Goku one-shots her, and they are both bloodlusted, so it's hard to say. Heck, Goku could just destroy the planet.
 
So, both have ways to quickly defeat each other (time stop vs one-shot), both are bloodlusted (so they will do those things right of the bat) and speed is equal (it's imposible to tell which one would be able to attack first). Sounds like Inconclusive to me.
 
well tbf resistence means they won't stop fully on the get go and potentially can outlast the user
 
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