Star Butterfly VS Goku

[TISSG7Redgrave]

isn't goku above baseline somewhat? With him being above beerus being above infinite zamasu too?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

They're both above baseline, but Star is a glass cannon.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Right I forgot about that

 

[LordGinSama]

Goku for the reasons above.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

If ssbx10 has resistance ultra instinct has that resistance.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Why? Aren't they two different transformations?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Yeah, so?

He doesn't lose powers or resistances when he gets a better form. If anything that resistance is on steroids now.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

They're both above baseline, but Star is a glass cannon.

But can travel between universes. Goku can't.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

He can travel between dimensions and outside of the universe though.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Zach for real how does multi-universal travel determine victory in a versus match like this?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

The page clearly says that Goku only has resistance to time stop as SSBKKx10, not normally. If he has it normally, someone should fix his page. More powerful form =/= Same abilities as the other form.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

He doesnt have it in base form,his base form isn't strong enough, Blue and above does, ui is above both by an infinite degree.

The page is outdated.

 

[Aizenishere]

Could her reality warping kill Goku from the get go?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

How good?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If the page is outdated, go uptade it, but until then, UI has no resistance to Time Stop.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

You're kidding right? If I could just go and update it I would.

And that doesn't change the fact he has the resist in UI. Do ya even know how he has that resistance? Because its not some special attribute to ssbx10.

 

[DodoNova2]

Could her reality warping kill Goku from the get go?

^

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Sniping is super useful.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

You're kidding right? If I could just go and update it I would.
And that doesn't change the fact he has the resist in UI. Do ya even know how he has that resistance? Because its not some special attribute to ssbx10.

The page is saying that he only has it on SSBKKx10, and in those fights, we use the pages. If the page is wrong, just talk with someone in the staff to fix it, or make a content revision thread. We can't use an ability that isn't on his page.

 

[DodoNova2]

Sniping is super useful.

what?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What? Just travel to another universe and snipe at goku from there.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

What? Just travel to another universe and snipe at goku from there.

Instant Transmission?

 

[The_Everlasting]

What? Just travel to another universe and snipe at goku from there.

That implies that Star's attacks can reach across multiple universes.

Which they can't.

Not that it matters because that would be suuuuuuuuuuuper OOC.

 

[DodoNova2]

Except with time stop, it has no way to harm goku with Tier 7 attacks

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

It is on his page. Thats like saying Goku can't fly in UI because he didn't show it. Ya realize UI is a case of >and all previous abilities.

Listing it twice is redundant. It's not even the page is wrong, it's just common sense to fill in the blanks.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What? Just travel to another universe and snipe at goku from there.

Instant Transmission?

Has only 3-A range.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It is on his page. Thats like saying Goku can't fly in UI because he didn't show it. Ya realize UI is a case of >and all previous abilities.
Listing it twice is redundant. It's not even the page is wrong, it's just common sense to fill in the blanks.

"Resistance to Existence Erasure normally and Time Stop as SSBKKx10", it doesn't say "SSBKKx10 and above" or something like that, it specifically say SSBKKx10, if it is wrong, someone please fix it.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Actually what the hell. It literally says >all previous abilitues.

Paulo, what are ya doing man?

 

[DodoNova2]

please tell me how star can kill goku?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, all abilities he had normally, but the Time Stop is still mentioned to be only with SSBKKx10, not normally, it's right there, read it.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

please tell me how star can kill goku?

They have equal AP but star has better hax and range

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It's not my fault if the page is saying he only has it on SSBKKx10, I didn't wrote it, but it's there.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Ya do realize thats because that Key is SSB right? But the time stop resist is only in SSBx10 within that key? Because base blue doesn't have it. It states that because only a specific part of that key has it.

And all previous abilities include that.

You're nitpicking, when its not even wrong.

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Zach

I reiterate.

Star's attacks cannot travel across multiple universes, and it would be extremely OOC for her to do that even if she could.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It's not my fault, I'm just reading what the damn page is saying.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

It is your fault entirely, the page isn't even wrong.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So, you're saying the page doesn't say "Resistance to Existence Erasure normally and Time Stop as SSBKKx10"?

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Goku in blue doesnt have those resistance vados stated it was just hit skipping time

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Does Ultra Instinct have resistance or not? And if he does, why does the page say it is only in SSBKKx10? I'm seriously confused right now.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Oh yes it does say that, because that Key is for SSB as a whole, it specifies that he only has time stop resistance in SSBx10 because his base blue doesnt have it, he needs Kaioken to have it and simply saying resistance to time stop would be wrong since it's implying base blue has it, when it doesn't. .

This is not even relevant since UI has every previous ability. Which is stated on the page.