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Zen'ō vs Simon Belmont
- Thread starter Seventy96
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Belmont resists existence erasure, Zenos only hax.
Belmont takes this.
Belmont takes this.
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What a terrible night to have a curse.
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I don't think it's a stomp, just that Belmont wins.
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Simon via resistances and time hax.
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Nah stomp, literally the only thing Zeno has is muda.
While Simon had like 50 other powers, probably an ap advantage and more. He hax stomps.
While Simon had like 50 other powers, probably an ap advantage and more. He hax stomps.
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Zen'o must really hate people called "Simon".
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Inconclusive since Zeno can't kill Simon, and Simon can't get a good reach on Zeno once he's in the air.
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Simon is resistant to Existence Erasure, not immune. Enough of that and he goes down.
Also the time hax from Simon doesn't last that long (though 5 seconds for these matches is a lot) and he does not spam it in character, IIRC, so considering this and his range this might be a problem for the vampire hunter.
Also not entirely sure on who has the AP advantage here.
I may go for inconclusive for now unless someone brings something else to the table.
Also the time hax from Simon doesn't last that long (though 5 seconds for these matches is a lot) and he does not spam it in character, IIRC, so considering this and his range this might be a problem for the vampire hunter.
Also not entirely sure on who has the AP advantage here.
I may go for inconclusive for now unless someone brings something else to the table.
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Can't he resist dracula's though, which is way above zeno's?
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I particularly don't remember Drac ever outright trying to erase Simon straight up lest every character from every game would be getting resistance to every hax from their every antagonist.
But considering he has it listed, I'm not ignoring that of course.
My point is that even if we consider that he did, I don't think his resistance to Drac's should be enough for us to outright disqualify Zen'o ever erasing him, as Dracula CAN ultimately destroy/erase a Belmont (they don't no sell it, Dracula fights back) and Zen'o is for better or worse in the same tier and has a Multiversal feat with said Existence Erasure which can, at the very least, erase souls as well. It shouldn't be that far behind.
Thus saying Simon resists it is fair game but saying he nopes it is not.
But considering he has it listed, I'm not ignoring that of course.
My point is that even if we consider that he did, I don't think his resistance to Drac's should be enough for us to outright disqualify Zen'o ever erasing him, as Dracula CAN ultimately destroy/erase a Belmont (they don't no sell it, Dracula fights back) and Zen'o is for better or worse in the same tier and has a Multiversal feat with said Existence Erasure which can, at the very least, erase souls as well. It shouldn't be that far behind.
Thus saying Simon resists it is fair game but saying he nopes it is not.
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The difference is that Zeno's existence erasure involves nuking the entire timeline he's in.
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That'd false Glass. Look at frost.
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He destroyed Infinite Zamasu, who became an entire timeline, and most likely all the other universes in that timeline since Trunks and Mai couldn't go back at all.
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And? He doesnt ''need'' to nuke the timeline.
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When get gets annoyed, he will.
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Most showings of Zen'o show him erasing the entire timeline.
The only reason he didn't nuke the entire timeline and stopped at Frost on that particular case was because U6 was still in the competition.
The only reason he didn't nuke the entire timeline and stopped at Frost on that particular case was because U6 was still in the competition.
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People REEEEAAAALLLY need to stop with the whole "He has resistance" and not look at the power difference between each.
Zeno one shots, but I don't believe he can do it before Simon time stops him, 5 seconds to an MFTL+ is like Hours
Zeno one shots, but I don't believe he can do it before Simon time stops him, 5 seconds to an MFTL+ is like Hours
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Simon doesn't time stop from the get go in character.
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In fact, I don't think anyone save the Time Manipulators (Aeon and Saint Germain) go for that soon.
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Isn't Castlevania filled with more universes and dimensions though?
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Idk, all I've seen from Simon is whipping stuff, jumping, and dying from unfair enemy placements.
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@Glassman Simon loses via Zen'o being a flying enemy and hitting him so he falls into a pit. ovo
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LmaoFateAlbane said:
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The max the Dracula has is around 9x above 2C IIRC.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
So no.
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Hmmm, I'm starting to think Simon gets erased here taking that, range and no time stop from the beginning into account...
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Common sense dictates that an attack like that should probably be time stopped.Blanked said:
Also, how do we know Simon wouldn't do it? How do we know his character?
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Because every Belmont in every cutscene ever (actually I'll include Alucard and Hector on this one too) never used time-stop and it's a sub-weapon out of a bunch of them which definitely won't be chosen from the get-go as opposed to the Vampire-Killer, signature weapon whip or some other sub weapon out of every single one they could use.
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Hence why I said the time abusers of the verse are Aeo and St. Germai .
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Because Zeno's Erasure is stronger then his resistance
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Ah is that so? I don't know very much about Simon and looking into his profile and the reasons given by other members were enough to convince me that he stomps Zeno.Gargoyle One said:
But since you pointed out that he hasn't shown resistance on that scale, and the fact that speed is equalised and Zeno is in-character, I think Zeno should take this because existence erasing is his go-to hax and that too without wasting any time.
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Question. Even if Simon is resistant to Zeno's erase, wouldn't he suffocate by being in space?
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Zeno for reasons above.
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Zeno FRA
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