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The Real Dies Irae Protagonist vs The Absolute Waifu
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Sakura exists.
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The Joke is here.
Your face is here.
Your face is here.
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Gargoyle One said:
Preach
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shirou should be protag and get Ruler now OVO *shot*
For realz Shirou seems to be able to take on all of jeanne's abilities MAYBE even her kamikaze attack considering he is resistent to conceptual attacks and knowing ability right off the bat does squat if you can't deal with it and can crush supernatural shit too so there is that (from page though i thought it was only his god form that has that tbh lol)
For realz Shirou seems to be able to take on all of jeanne's abilities MAYBE even her kamikaze attack considering he is resistent to conceptual attacks and knowing ability right off the bat does squat if you can't deal with it and can crush supernatural shit too so there is that (from page though i thought it was only his god form that has that tbh lol)
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At the very least knowing his abilities means she knows "don't bother blocking because it will get neg'd"
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LEL
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So... 3 things.SchroKatze said:
A) Then this thread was made to be either Shirou's win or inconclusive, seeing as Ruler's conceptual destruction kills her as well.
B) Shirou can only actually use his supernatural crushing powers as a member of Ren's Legion. His 7-B key doesn't even have power nullification listed.
C) Shirou's Power Crushing abilities only work on godly or divine powers, things which Jeanne is most definitely not.
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that is true malignant tumor apoptosis only is in his god form (psuedo). But yes don't use that...I will have to point out Shirou is smart enough to use rusalka's relic to form a proper strategy really he did it with wilhelm and got a good hit
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Shirou takes Ruler down.
Also make it 7-A.
However either way i can't see Ruler having the ability to take Shirou down since he's resistant to conceptual and mind manipulations. So Ruler's soul sucking ability (which each servant in the Fate series has) and her conceptual destruction won't work at all on him.
Shirou takes this, 7-A or 7-B. It won't matter at all since Ruler doesn't have a way to kill him. Combined by his healing factor and Ruler is done for.
Voting for Shirou.
Also make it 7-A.
However either way i can't see Ruler having the ability to take Shirou down since he's resistant to conceptual and mind manipulations. So Ruler's soul sucking ability (which each servant in the Fate series has) and her conceptual destruction won't work at all on him.
Shirou takes this, 7-A or 7-B. It won't matter at all since Ruler doesn't have a way to kill him. Combined by his healing factor and Ruler is done for.
Voting for Shirou.
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It's worth noting Ruler got a pretty good buff sice this.
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Just came to see if Grave would be on this thread.... ahh yes offcourse
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Still, She has absolutely no wasy to kill Shirou.Gargoyle One said:
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Her conceptual manip is apparently good enough to burn away the fate of the world. Shirou's conceptual resist comes from being able to survive hits from a weapon that does conceptual damage.
I'd say it could kill him easily... but it would also kill her, so....
I'd say it could kill him easily... but it would also kill her, so....
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But Ruler also has a weapon that would allow her to do conceptual damage as ell. And even so Conceptual Damage=Conceptual Manipulation. Like Lancer's Gae Bolg, which can do causality damage by changing the causes of his thrown spear to pierce the heart of the opponent.Monarch Laciel said:
Shirou takes it with flying colors.
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her limited precog can help...but Shirou's DEJA VU DEJA VU DEJA VU shit may moot that really. Her best chance is her NP KMS but Shirou has a good chance to survive maybe like toss up to me due to his resistence. However keep in mind Shirou now has a relic and does concept damage with it plus he is known to take risks but with high reward and he learned how to use rusalka's relic without much difficulty hell he faked out wilhelm in thinking he destroyed all the items and landed a pretty good blow on the vampire in briah
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What...? I don't understand your reasoning here at all. And why did you mention Gae Bolg, causality manip isn't even being used here.
Shirou wouldn't be able to resist Machina's punch. La Pucelle is a power of a similar level, burning away concepts and futures both.
Shirou wouldn't be able to resist Machina's punch. La Pucelle is a power of a similar level, burning away concepts and futures both.
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What is his Deja Vu ability? I don't understand it. Can you explain it to me?TISSG7Redgrave said:
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It's not an ability
It's literally just Shirou getting feelings of deja vu because he vaguely remembers events from past timelines due to the nature of the world he lives in (i.e. working under the Law of Eternal Recurrence). It's not combat applicable, and it would not help. Especially in a completely neutral territory like a VSB match.
It's literally just Shirou getting feelings of deja vu because he vaguely remembers events from past timelines due to the nature of the world he lives in (i.e. working under the Law of Eternal Recurrence). It's not combat applicable, and it would not help. Especially in a completely neutral territory like a VSB match.
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deja vu = he knows what is going to happen he fought LDO as a human because of knowing what trajectory or attack they would do which leads him to feel angry at it due to not feeling alive.
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i said maybe but eh idk ALRFY said he should have precog apparently one time but idk again no clue on that
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It's something that only happens because of Mercurius. Mercurius is not here, so deja vu is a moot point
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Still, Shirou has more ways to defeat Ruler, said person has like...none.
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hmm even if it is moot Shirou still has ways to take her out really but i'm not voting yet unless there is literally nothing to say on ruler's other abilities (like if she can kill Shirou other than kamikaze)
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Are my comments not appearing or something?
Deja vu only happens because of Mercurius screwing with timelines. Merc isn't here, so deja vu is irrelevant.
And Shirou still gets one-shot by La Pucelle if she decides to use it. And her forcefield is strong enough to block this guy exploding, so I doubt Shirou's going to be able to break it.
Deja vu only happens because of Mercurius screwing with timelines. Merc isn't here, so deja vu is irrelevant.
And Shirou still gets one-shot by La Pucelle if she decides to use it. And her forcefield is strong enough to block this guy exploding, so I doubt Shirou's going to be able to break it.
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Also, all Servants are spiritual beings, so I doubt his apostle nature is going to help. And Baptism Rite would screw him over seeing as it causes the very existence of spiritual beings to melt away.
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the thing is that would either result in stalemate or shirou can end her quick enough also I said it's moot above too so I'm not using that card now
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And you don't think that a bunch of chains coming at her from every direction is "really needed"?
She can win by just cutting him up, seeing as she can kill Servants, i.e. fundamentally spiritual beings, or she can use the Baptism Rite to melt his existence away, seeing as he is a spiritual being.
She can win by just cutting him up, seeing as she can kill Servants, i.e. fundamentally spiritual beings, or she can use the Baptism Rite to melt his existence away, seeing as he is a spiritual being.
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It's a fair fight, why would you close it?
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oh boy
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It best that it need to be reduxed.
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