Zygarde and Ultra Beasts

[Foggysniper]

https://youtu.be/Ymd_1NYTK9I?t=3m30s

"Zygarde is said to maintain order of the Kalos Region, so then why is it in Alola? Does it have something to do with the Ultra Beasts?"

This seems to suggest that Zygarde feels that the Ultra Beasts are enough of a threat to Alola that he'd appear in Alola. So I propose that Zygarde scales to the Ultra Beasts and vice versa. I also know that he is supposed to be fighting some UBs in the manga.

Here's what I suggest we do. We keep the Ultra Beasts at Small Country level with a Possibly Planet level tagged on to them and having Zygarde having Possibly MFTL tagged onto him because they possibly scale to each other.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I was thinking about doing this earlier but I wasn't so sure.

The Pokémon website also states that 100% Zygarde only shows up if 50% can't deal with it.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

This would upgrade all the Gen Vll legends in the process of course. If accepted.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I'm less sure about scaling Zygarde to MFTL+, since it's never said that Zygarde COULD stop them, just that 50% couldn't.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

There's also the matter of the UBs supposedly being absolutely ridiculous in power compared to the Pokemon of the main world. Them scaling definitely isn't out of the question.

Also obviously important to keep in mind that Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma are also UBs.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

No I meant that this would place UB's, Tapus and such to 5-B.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah, but I was talking more about the OP there

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I am all good with these guys being 5-B in all honesty.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Small glass jellyfish can now bust planet

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The Pokemon Embodiment of a Paper Cut just became a Planet Buster....

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I wouldn't be against it either

 

[Foggysniper]

I'm less sure about scaling Zygarde to MFTL+, since it's never said that Zygarde COULD stop them, just that 50% couldn't.

It wouldn't make much sense for Zygarde to try and defend the Earth against something that utterly outmatches him in speed. But like I suggested, it could just be a possibly MFTL+ instead of a definite MFTL+

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

"Although it's alien to this world and a danger here, it's apparently a common organism in the world where it normally lives."

Further "UBs are extremely strong compared to the things of this world" stuff.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I wanna see what an UB equivalent to a Rattata is...

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Also, Guzzlords solo'd an alternate Pokémon world. There is that

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

While nowhere on this scale, we can't forget that Buzzwole causes eruptions just by flexing. ovo

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Keep in mind if 100% Zygarde scales, Yveltal and Xerneas scale as they're not far behind. And 50% Zygarde scales because he's not far behind them. And M-Mewtwo scales because he's equal to 50% Zygarde. And R-Genesect scales because he's equal to M-Mewtwo.

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

Hold on, abit confused. What exactly are we suggesting?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

The Ultra Beasts are too much for Zygarde 50%, so they scale to it.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Ive honestly been wondering much about this. Agreeing.

Also cuz Gen 7's my fav (and not just cuz of my man Kukui ovo).

 

[Foggysniper]

Hold on, abit confused. What exactly are we suggesting?

We scale the UBs to Zygarde as it is highly suggested that he came to Alola to stop them as they are a threat to the Earth

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

I see. Makes sense to me. I support it.

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

Btw, does this mean Silvally will scale too since he was developed to kill the said UB?

 

[Foggysniper]

Probably. I don't see why not.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah Silvally would

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Inb4 5-B Pikachu and Dusk-form Lycanrock ovo

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

M-Mewtwo scales because he's equal to 50% Zygarde.

Just noticed this.

Actually they aren't equal Cal. Not by much, but 50% Zygarde is shown to be more superior as in the manga when they fight Lysandre himself says Mewtwo with its mega evolutions was only good enough to stop Zygarde's attacks. Zygarde had more of the upper hand.

--> http://jb2448.info/picture.php?/47211/category/2253

Scaling still holds, just Zygarde is on the higher end.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Haxwise, Mewtwo stomps

I actually never knew this. Granted, Lysandre could be boasting, but I don't think that's in his character. So, you're right, but that's AP only.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I honestly don't know where we'd be without the site I reccomended. Their magic of pokemon manga scans is fascinating ovo.

But yeah AP only. Was what I meant by not much lol. Zygarde definitely wasn't leagues above M.M. just a tad higher to overhwhelm him.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Bumping

 

[NeoZex6399]

Looks good for me.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Well, this is the perfect time to bring that image NeoZex showed us...

 

[NeoZex6399]

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Fully official, btw. And completely game related. Not even TCG.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

This doesn't change much. I wouldn't upgrade anyone to Ultra Necrozma due to this image.

 

[NeoZex6399]

I agree with Dragon, it's a little doubtful.

 

[Foggysniper]

Anyways, so everyone agrees that UBs would scale to Zygarde correct? This would end up scaling to the Tapus, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma (other than Ultra Necrozma), Silvally, and the UBs. Did I miss anything it'd scale to?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Wait how is it game related?

 

[Foggysniper]

Wait how is it game related?

It appeared in one of the Japanese game trailers.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Wait for? Could I get a link plz if u have one?