Zombie Jason 8-B Upgrade

[ShionAH]

Crossover Page:

• It is fine to powerscale a crossover character's statistics through their presence in a game's story mode, equivalent, or other canonical material. Additionally, it is typically acceptable to assume that a character is at least comparable to common enemies in a game if gameplay requires or heavily encourages defeating those enemies, though this can vary depending on the specific case.

Jason STOMPED Liu Kang while Liu was in his strongest form

 

[Dragonite007]

Jason stomped revenant Liu Kang, not the Fire God Liu Kang

 

[ShionAH]

Jason stomped revenant Liu Kang, not the Fire God Liu Kang

High 8-C then?

Jason would also get Massively Hypersonic+ reactions and combat speed and Class K LS since he overpowered Liu too.

 

[koopa3144]

Pretty sure MK guest characters get profiles separate from their main ones (I.e Joker and Xenomorphs)

 

[SamanPatou]

MK guest characters aren't canon neither to their source verse nor to MK, so I don't see why this should scale to canon Jason.

 

[ShionAH]

Pretty sure MK guest characters get profiles separate from their main ones (I.e Joker and Xenomorphs)

They can be added for the canon as well if they have story feats, thats whats written in the rules

 

[ShionAH]

MK guest characters aren't canon neither to their source verse nor to MK, so I don't see why this should scale to canon Jason.

Because the story shows Jason has this capacity and since its not using gameplay this can be added for the main Jason. How do you know this isnt canon?

 

[SamanPatou]

Because the story shows Jason has this capacity and since its not using gameplay this can be added for the main Jason. How do you know this isnt canon?

It would be added to a "Jason (Mortal Kombat)" kind of profile, not the main one.

How do you know it is canon? You have to prove the positive.
It isn't canon to MK because it takes place in an already non-canon setting, as purified Liu Kang never became the ruler of Netherrealm nor was killed by Jason, who literally doesn't exist in general in the main story.
It's not canon to Friday 13th because afaik nothing shows nor proves that his MK holiday trip happened even in the movie continuity.

 

[ShionAH]

It would be added to a "Jason (Mortal Kombat)" kind of profile, not the main one.

How do you know it is canon? You have to prove the positive.
It isn't canon to MK because it takes place in an already non-canon setting, as purified Liu Kang never became the ruler of Netherrealm nor was killed by Jason, who literally doesn't exist in general in the main story.

It might be a possible timeline in the verse. You do know theres multiple endings right?

It's not canon to Friday 13th because afaik nothing shows nor proves that his MK holiday trip happened even in the movie continuity.

It is canon to F13 because its jason himself, like I showed in the crossover rules if a character has shown to have capacity to do this IN THE STORY then that can be scaled.

 

[SamanPatou]

It might be a possible timeline in the verse. You do know theres multiple endings right?

None of the arcade endings are canon, in all 3 NRS games they were used as what ifs that take different paths when compared to the main story.
If you refer to one of the billions of past timelines resetted by Kronika, it is still irrelevant because it doesn't concern the main timelines on which our files are based (and it still has to be proven)

It is canon to F13 because its jason himself, like I showed in the crossover rules if a character has shown to have capacity to do this IN THE STORY then that can be scaled.

The point is that said story mode has to be canon to the main source, it's not just about the character being basically a copy-paste of the original.
Jason being a guest is the most basic textbook example of "alternate crossover version", not unlike any other game with guest characters.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Crossover Page:

• It is fine to powerscale a crossover character's statistics through their presence in a game's story mode, equivalent, or other canonical material. Additionally, it is typically acceptable to assume that a character is at least comparable to common enemies in a game if gameplay requires or heavily encourages defeating those enemies, though this can vary depending on the specific case.

Jason STOMPED Liu Kang while Liu was in his strongest form

Still fodder and this feat is too good to be considered canon for a fodder like him

 

[ShionAH]

None of the arcade endings are canon, in all 3 NRS games they were used as what ifs that take different paths when compared to the main story.
If you refer to one of the billions of past timelines resetted by Kronika, it is still irrelevant because it doesn't concern the main timelines on which our files are based (and it still has to be proven)

It shows Jason still has this capacity so its irrelevant.

The point is that said story mode has to be canon to the main source, it's not just about the character being basically a copy-paste of the original.
Jason being a guest is the most basic textbook example of "alternate crossover version", not unlike any other game with guest characters.

The story IS canon. Its just a “What If” this is like removing the entire Marvels What If verse. Unless you have any proof this is not useable then the crossover rule applies and it can be used. It scales to jason, the end.

Still fodder and this feat is too good to be considered canon for a fodder like him

Jason is not a fodder. He literally stomps most things he is up against, unless you have an actual arguement then dont comment.

 

[SamanPatou]

It shows Jason still has this capacity so its irrelevant.

MK-only Jason, not Jason in general.
Seriously, I don't see why he should be different to any guest character from any fighting game, Dead By Daylight or whatever other game which happens to give them at least 20 seconds of their own story.

The story IS canon. Its just a “What If” this is like removing the entire Marvels What If verse. Unless you have any proof this is not useable then the crossover rule applies and it can be used. It scales to jason, the end.

???
This story is not canon at all, it's a what if, but a what if that never happened.
It works in its self-contained verse, like MK Alien, but not for the overall canon.
That's why NRS MK files don't have abilities displayed in those endings, like Shao Kahn surviving as a ghost, because they just contradict what is shown in the main story.

 

[ShionAH]

MK-only Jason, not Jason in general.
Seriously, I don't see why he should be different to any guest character from any fighting game, Dead By Daylight or whatever other game which happens to give them at least 20 seconds of their own story.

In DbD they have different canons but in this case Jasons story is the same.

???
This story is not canon at all, it's a what if, but a what if that never happened.
It works in its self-contained verse, like MK Alien, but not for the overall canon.
That's why NRS MK files don't have abilities displayed in those endings, like Shao Kahn surviving as a ghost, because they just contradict what is shown in the main story.

In the game jason can beat Liu kang, in the story jason has capacity yo defeat Liu kang = Jason can defeat Liu Kang. Its very simple and shows Jason has this capacity in canon and Shao Kahn surviving as a ghost is not used because like you said it contradicts it but Jason killing Liu Kang in a timeline is not contradicted because you know…it IS possible

 

[Qawsedf234]

This is a feat for MK Jason, not Canon Jason. The story of MK and F13 doesn't really work for cross scaling.

 

[ShionAH]

This is a feat for MK Jason, not Canon Jason. The story of MK and F13 doesn't really work for cross scaling.

Mk jason is canon jason though

 

[Qawsedf234]

Mk jason is canon jason though

He is not. The game's cannot work with Jason X or Freddy vs Jason, which makes it non-canon.

 

[ShionAH]

He is not. The game's cannot work with Jason X or Freddy vs Jason, which makes it non-canon.

Why can they not?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Why can they not?

Because they mention Jason X explicitly

Death and revenge make up the very core of Jason Voorhees' being. He died as a young boy. His mother killed out of grief and rage. When she was murdered, Jason returned and avenged her. Many times since, the living have tried to send him back to the realm of the dead. He's been stabbed, drowned, electrocuted, hurled into space. But Jason cannot be killed. Cannot be stopped

Which makes the game appearance non-canon to Jason. He can't both be a Cyborg in year 2455 and in MK.

 

[ShionAH]

Because they mention Jason X explicitly

Which makes the game appearance non-canon to Jason. He can't both be a Cyborg in year 2455 and in MK.

****…thats true-
No Tier 8 jason then

 

[ShionAH]

Because they mention Jason X explicitly

Which makes the game appearance non-canon to Jason. He can't both be a Cyborg in year 2455 and in MK.

Why does Zombie Jason not scale to 9-A? Didnt they fight?

 

[Jason_Courne]

Why does Zombie Jason not scale to 9-A? Didnt they fight?

Yes, and no. Zombie Jason should have 9-A durability, he was shoved through a metal wall which we put at 9-A (but don't scale to him)
But between Uber and Zombie Jason, they are nowhere near eachother in terms of stats

• Uber Jason easily punched off a metal door that Zombie Jason couldn't do any damage to
• He was repeatedly shown to easily overpower Zombie Jason in their fight via pure strength
• Even when Zombie Jason had the advantage he was quickly and easily overpowered by Uber Jason
• The damage Uber Jason did to Zombie Jason is incomparable, Uber was tearing through Zombie like butter, while Zombie could only damage Uber via the future machete

So Zombie Jason should be 9-A (at least in durability), but he does not scale to Uber Jason at all

 

[Hellbeast]

MK guest characters aren't canon neither to their source verse nor to MK, so I don't see why this should scale to canon Jason.

Yeah this would just apply to a profile with Jason's MKX self