Zeno vs. March 7th

[Mickey1940]

What does 1A ice even mean



Plenty of other non 1A characters can break out of the ice through just physical force/lifting strength, including random fodder enemies who aren't pathstriders



Heck is Svarog 1A now for nearly bodying the main cast, including March? He's not a pathstrider. No one in Belabog is confirmed to be one.



I get that March could potentially resist Zeno's hax but Zeno, and other DB characters, can kill with their presence alone, much less a ki blast. Zeno could just look at March real funny after realizing erasure doesn't work and March splatters into bloody paste.



If you're trying to say that 1A ice = you need 1A ap to destroy it, like I said, plenty of other non 1A characters can destroy it. If you argue that Pathstriders resist the ice and thus can break out... uhh... if you're locked in a prison of ice, ice RESISTANCE doesn't help you break out of said ice



So 1A ice just doesn't make any sense

 

[Voidnether]

1A ice means if you're hit by them, you're dead

And pretty sure everyone in HSR resists status effect inducement in which after you get frozen, you somehow break free from it after the turns are over (game mechanics moment), not mentioning the fragmentum stuff that they apparently resist which is also the same scale (derived off stellaron which is imaginary energy itself)

Upscaling them to 1A simply because they could break 1A ice would be funny ngl I gotta admit

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Her ice has 1-A hax potency from imaginary law (aka imaginary energy) not that her AP is 1-A with ice, otherwise she would have 1-A ap with six phased ice (1-A march soon?)
Also like turn based fighting games tend to ignore narrative and power of characters i mean we have Harmonious choir summoning hand of AEON and yet no one is 1-A so nope
Also she doesnt always use 1-A ice theres a difference in color of her ice in game and in cutscenes (specifically jamming guns and 3.0 ending scene)
This is also case where Cocolia litteraly uses Stellaron which is Imaginary energy itself and shes not 1-A so neither svarog would be 1-A cuz of supossedly tanking march ice
And isnt this matchup already over or what

 

[Mickey1940]

1A ice means if you're hit by them, you're dead

And pretty sure everyone in HSR resists status effect inducement in which after you get frozen, you somehow break free from it after the turns are over (game mechanics moment), not mentioning the fragmentum stuff that they apparently resist which is also the same scale (derived off stellaron which is imaginary energy itself)

Upscaling them to 1A simply because they could break 1A ice would be funny ngl I gotta admit

Except that resistance is reserved for pathstriders

Plenty of just normal military (like Belabog troops) in HSR don't just die on impact with the ice. Saying that they have 1A resistance to ice despite just being trained people makes no sense

March wouldn't just be 3C if she just instakills everything. HSR as a whole would just be 1A, but they aren't

 

[Voidnether]

Except that resistance is reserved for pathstriders

Plenty of just normal military (like Belabog troops) in HSR don't just die on impact with the ice. Saying that they have 1A resistance to ice despite just being trained people makes no sense

March wouldn't just be 3C if she just instakills everything. HSR as a whole would just be 1A, but they aren't

I mean, they're not affected by fragmentum aren't they? The main reason why everyone resists it, is because the average silvermane guards resists the fragmentum effect (Atleast that's what Aernasilver said back then)

Pathstriders upscale from them

 

[Ebihara]

Thread 'Ichigo Kurosaki vs March 7th (15-15-3)'

Jan 15, 2025

Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)

Ichigo Kurosaki (黒崎くろさき 一いち護ご, Kurosaki Ichigo?) is the son of Masaki Kurosaki and Isshin Kurosaki, a Quincy with the powers of a Soul Reaper. Years after the death of his mother, Ichigo uses his innate spiritual awareness to help local ghosts, and unlocks his potential as a Soul Reaper when...

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March 7th

March 7th (三みつ月きなのか, Mitsuki-na noka?) is a clever, quirky girl who is enthusiastic about all things girls her age are enthusiastic about. She travels with the Express, always bringing along her camera with the belief that one day she will be able to take a photo of something related to her...

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Ichigo at his True Zanpakuto key (4.6 Zettafoe)

While March is at her hunt key (10.53 Zettafoe)

Speed equalized

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Here is 8 pages of basically discussing her stupid smurf powers. I hate hsr charcters. Pretty much all of these points have been brought up discussed here to death if anyone wants somthing read or reference for it.

 

[Mickey1940]

Here are the messages describing what "1A ice" is:

Post in thread 'Ichigo Kurosaki vs March 7th (15-15-3)'

Jan 15, 2025

What does the ice hax do specifically?

She can jam guns with a block of ice, and Freezes her opponents to death with 1-A+ potency behind it cuz of imaginary space and tree type stuff. Her ice is a unique type of ice know as Six-Phased Ice, a substance that adheres to Imaginary Law, which means that external forces cannot change its form. The Imaginary Law is the law of the universe, the unbreakable law above all other laws.

• Shar122

Does this mean that her ice is unbreakable? just straight up? cuz that's not how she attacks in her cutscenes, and that's not how her ice attacks work in game either. Her Frozen duration doesn't just last forever, even against non-Pathstriders, like normal trained soldiers from Belabog. Before you say that's a game mechanic, she does actually fight Belabog soldiers and robots in lore, who all shouldn't be able to resist any of the 1A hax Honkai tends to throw around since she doesn't just kill them on contact.
This is further disproven since she presumably couldn't 1 shot Svarog, who has no hax resistances at that level beyond Belabog's natural climate, which although is cold, shouldn't protect him from the 1A ice, yet he facetanks that anyways despite not being a Pathstrider, and he can shatter the ice through sheer physical force.

Post in thread 'Ichigo Kurosaki vs March 7th (15-15-3)'

Jan 15, 2025

I don't think abilities having higher AP can counter layers

Like how soul crush is always baseline despite can soul crush other soul crush users as it's bound to AP

Hax abilities are irrelevant to AP until higher-dimensions, 1-A layers, High 1-A layers and tier 0 come into play here. The reason why characters like March 7th have the potential to bypass 1-A barriers is because of their Paths, which are 1-A power sources. A non 1-A resistance is ineffective to things that originate from a 1-A stuff.

• GarrixianXD

This implies that March can negate traditional ice resistances that aren't 1A in potency. So characters such as Gray Fullbuster from Fairy Tail and Shoto Todoroki from My Hero Academia would still feel cold and take damage from her ice attacks instead of facetanking it
That doesn't imply she just negs everyone the ice hits, that just means that her ice is for all intents and purposes, normal, except it bypasses ice resistance
Zeno doesn't even have ice resistance so her ice is just normal ice for all intents and purposes. Ice that Zeno can break out of physically


Even if everything I said above isn't true, Zeno still wins:

1. I want to mention SBA here. These characters are starting 4km away from each other, meaning Zeno tries to erase her, fails, then just nukes the universe. Nothing is stopping him from just physically blasting something to smithereens, as he is still capable of using ki. It's likely he does this anyways, as Zeno is portrayed as so childish and easy to anger that the Gods of Destruction go out of their way so that even the tiniest inconvenience doesn't happen, as that could cause the nuking of the universe. Zeno's main EE gimmick blatantly failing to work is probably gonna piss him off more than, say, Goku saying something dumb, so there's nothing stopping him from just blasting the universe with sheer AP, something March doesn't resist
2. What's stopping Zeno from just blasting her arrows out of the air
the ice is in the form of her arrows and bunnies, and are physical projectiles. Even if we assume the ice doesn't break on contact with ki blasts, ki blasts still emit concussive force. March's ice isn't going to just fly through Zeno Kiai-ing everything to smithereens.
3. Even if we assume March can use her ice defensively to protect herself, Zeno can attack across time and space due to just being 2C. Her ice doesn't protect her from that.