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Zelda Upgrade (Triforce)

I'm not nitpicking you're trying to bring up an argument I've seen literally no one attest, remained intact has the same exact issue I've literally only seen you on this thread bring it up, everyone else's argument was just that the triforce can amp you without it being on your person.
 
I've already apologized for going off-track earlier, which is what that statement was about.

I was just bringing it up again because people were using my own words fallaciously, making me look like I don't know even the basics of LoZ.

That statement has no relevance to the current topic, so please stop bringing it up.
 
It seems like 3-A Zelda has been rejected by the staff. We should probably close this thread.
 
It wasn't rejected there was a clear mix up of what was talked-about also GiverOfThePeace and inverted tempest just addressed and debunked what glassman said
 
If the Triforce was only briefly used for a single wish, I am not sure if we can scale her physical statistics from it in any case.
 
Antvasima said:
If the Triforce was only briefly used for a single wish, I am not sure if we can scale her physical statistics from it in any case.
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I completely agree.
 
From what's been shown before even if you make a single wish with it you still have it's essence. ALTTP is an example of that and ALBW falls under the same timeline as it. We don't see anything of ALBW Zelda again after ALBW too iirc.
 
Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it did. As I mentioned before, Ganon gaining more power from the Triforce was a part of his wish to rule both the Light World and the Dark World. Restoring Lorule's Triforce doesn't require Zelda to become more powerful for her wish to come true, so she shouldn't be getting power from it. Again, that would mean that King Daphnes Hyrule from WW would scale to it, since he wished upon it to wipe the Kingdom of Hyrule away to stop Ganondorf.

Plus, as you said, we never see ALBW Zelda again, so we have no proof that she did or didn't inherit the Triforce's power. Therefore, by the processes of power-scaling on the wiki, we should assume that she didn't, just like King Hyrule can't be scaled since he disappeared along with Hyrule.
 
Except I never said "it could happen" I said that's what's been shown when someone worthy makes the wish. K that's cool, the essence never states it stays with him because of his wish but because he made a wish.

"But now that Ganon has been destroyed, his Dark World will surely vanish. The Triforce is waiting for a new master. Its Golden Power is in your hands... Now, touch it and think of the wish in your heart."

So re-bringing up the Lorule point doesn't mean anything because the triforce doesn't need you to make a power fantasy wish for you to be it's master you need to be worthy + make a wish.

Oh yes, the Wind Waker analogy. The game where the specific wish the King made was to end the history of old hyrule and build a new future... and in that timeline the triforce is never shown again nor talked about. Not to mention it isn't even confirmed if the King is worthy. And this is in a completely different timeline.

I don't think you got my point there, the fact that A. ALTTP has shown making a wish makes you the triforces master. B. this falls under the same timeline as ALTTP. C. The Wind Waker analogy falls flat when you understand the context of the wish the King gave and D. We never see ALBW Zelda again so we have no reason to assume it doesn't power her since nothing in-game ever states the triforce didn't stay with her while lore already shows what happens when you touch the triforce. By process of powerscaling we should actually assume she did since again, in the same timeline it already shows what happens when you touch the triforce. Yes, he disappeared along with Hyrule, because his wish was to literally erase the existence(metaphorically) of old hyrule.
 
Also, considering ONLY ALBW Link is the master of The Triforce in this scenario, why didn't he just stomp the TF villain out of existance?
 
A. ALTTP has shown making a wish makes you the triforces master.

Does this mean you can make wishes on the Triforce now? Yes. Does this in any way imply that you get empowered by it? No.

B. this falls under the same timeline as ALTTP.

So does The Adventure of Link, which has Link gather the Triforce pieces in order to wake Zelda from her deep sleep. Does that mean TAOL Link now has the power of the Triforce? No, it's never shown that he does.

C. The Wind Waker analogy falls flat when you understand the context of the wish the King gave

And the context of Ganon's wish in ALTTP indicates that the Triforce was granting him power due to the particular wish he made, rather than just in general.

D. We never see ALBW Zelda again so we have no reason to assume it doesn't power her since nothing in-game ever states the triforce didn't stay with her while lore already shows what happens when you touch the triforce. By process of powerscaling we should actually assume she did since again, in the same timeline it already shows what happens when you touch the triforce.

I say it shouldn't scale since we see nothing, you say it should scale since we see nothing. Pretty sure there's a problem there. Again, you still have yet to explain how Ganon gaining power is just the Triforce acting like a battery for him that anyone can tap, rather than just applying to his wish of ruling the world by giving him the power he needs in order to do so.
 
Why would you literally owning the triforce and being it's master not give you it's power? This is a random assumption that's unsupported. Might as well downgrade literally everyone that has the triforce now because they never specifically wish for power unless they're Ganondorf.

Except he does, and it's even listed on his profile.

I don't think you get the refute and tried to apply your own context. The context I'm talking about makes the King unable to be empowered by it because he's specifically asking for everything about him and the hyrule to be destroyed.

Because your argument requires literally everyone to be downgraded cause they specifically don't ask to be empowered by the triforce despite the fact that they literally own the triforce piece and the triforce pieces by themselves have already shown in lore to amp the character wihtout them "wishing" for anything. Like what even is this by this point, guess we need to downgrade ToP, ToW, and ToC because the character isn't making a wish asking for more strength.
 
You know what? Fine. I give up.

Yes, you've made fair points on everything, and if the individual Triforce pieces empower people, which I admit they very well do, then there's no reason why they wouldn't do so complete. I still have the problem of the Triforce tending to scatter or disappear after one use, meaning that any such boost would be extremely limited, such as in Twilight Princess or Ocarina of Time iirc, but whatever.

I'm done debating on this.
 
So should we only give her "3-A via wishing" or ignore it as she never used it for combat purposes? It does not seem very relevant.
 
She never used it for combat purposes because by the time she had it the fighting was already over, it'd be like removing the other Links that have 3-A with the triforce cause they didn't use it for combat purposes since the fights ended.
 
Okay. What does Cal think?
 
Also Link used the TF in skyward Sword and it didn't disperse same thing in Zelda 2. Plus I agree with GiverOfThePeace you don't need to use the Triforce in combat if there's literally nothing to fight, she used to restore an other Triforce that was destroyed. As far as I'm concerned she can get 3-A via wishing.
 
So do you only want to give her 3-A via wishing, or increase all of her statistics?
 
Antvasima said:
So do you only want to give her 3-A via wishing, or increase all of her statistics?
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For now it's better to give 3-A via wishing just to be on the safe side if that's good for you I want to wait on the inputbof others about increasing all stats.
 
Okay. That seems safest, yes.
 
Okay. That is probably fine.
 
I can do so if the others are fine with it.
 
I have exactly now seen that Zelda in ALBW is not listed as a user of the whole Triforce in The Triforce's page. Should this be added?
 
That is probably a good idea, yes.
 
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