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I'm sorry. I shouldn't be so rude or calling people names. It's just so ******* stressful when nobody wants to listen to you.
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He was amped by USM's powers as well, not just the GWs. Scaling Zane to Overlord would put everyone above FSM which is not even true, and Zane was amped by TP + GWs while performing the feat, so it doesn't scale to his baseYeah and the reason Golden Master is more Powerful is BECAUSE HE HAD THE GOLDEN WEAPONS YOU DIPSHIT!
GWs just completed his transformation. He doesn't look like he is transforming back to blob after Golden Armor is being absorbed, so he is no longer dependent on it. Golden Weapons creating land masses of Ninjago put them above Omega? GWs cap at 4-C where most of the villains scale. Heck, even base Ninjas scale to them lmao, what are you talking about? They are simply used to complete transformation, not because it has Golden Power in it. Also if Golden Weapons have Golden Power, then Lloyd would no longer need USM form cuz his base form already has power of Golden WeaponsYeah and the reason Golden Master is more Powerful is BECAUSE HE HAD THE GOLDEN WEAPONS YOU DIPSHIT! Considering the Golden Weapons were Created by the First Spinjitzu Master to create the lands pass his Power down and are also clearly more Powerful than the Omega and almost every other villain. Not to mention the fact that they were taken away before Season 2 and with the context the series gives us (Overlord saying they were the other way to become the Golden Master and the fact that it is implied he lost all of his Power once the transmission was uploaded) there is literally no reason to believe that they don't possess Golden Power when combined. Obviously Garmadon with the Golden Weapons wouldn't be nearly as Strong as Overlord with them because he doesn't have the same level of experience (and as shown in the series Golden Power is Strengthened by Mastery). Once again I will state: Golden Master Overlord is simply a Weakened version of the Overlord with the Power of the Golden Armor on his side. When you take away his Main Power source he becomes a lot weaker. But clearly your dipshit brains don't know how to read and think your Headcanons that don't make any sense if you actually watched the ******* show should be accepted over the Canon and you state them like it's fact. I honestly don't even know why I'm still responding but honestly this is just getting under my skin. You shouldn't be in this community if you don't even know how to read other people's replies and just state the same things over and over.
Wu and Garmadon statement was made while Overlord had a body.GWs just completed his transformation. He doesn't look like he is transforming back to blob after Golden Armor is being absorbed, so he is no longer dependent on it.
The Combined Power... Cough cough When the Elements are combined and completing their power cough cough same logic applies to your speculation for Golden Master.Golden Weapons creating land masses of Ninjago put them above Omega? GWs cap at 4-C where most of the villains scale. Heck, even base Ninjas scale to them lmao, what are you talking about? They are simply used to complete transformation, not because it has Golden Power in it.
Proof?Also if Golden Weapons have Golden Power, then Lloyd would no longer need USM form cuz his base form already has power of Golden Weapons
Already debunked this.And I'll restate myself again: Golden Armor is NOT what makes Golden Master powerful. What makes him powerful is the fact that this body is his TRUE body, he has BOTH Darkness and Golden Power, and also has Golden Armor as the bonus.
Thanks for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you didn't read what I said.Me the one making headcanons? Who is the one who states that Golden Master is weaker than Dragon Overlord?
Clearly wasn't trying to say they were and you'd know that if you knew how to read.Funny if you think that your words about “quit the community brrrr” have any influence over me, I just don't ******* care and atp I'm here just to have a good laugh over your unsuccessful attempts to make your favorite Ninja above Overlord.
This is so wrong. GM obtained a power equal to FSM with USM's GP and the GWs. The weapons caps at 4-C and don't vary depending on the userObviously Garmadon with the Golden Weapons wouldn't be nearly as Strong as Overlord with them because he doesn't have the same level of experience (and as shown in the series Golden Power is Strengthened by Mastery).
"You can harness all of the elemental powers" this was back when The Ninja's Elemental Powers were reliant on the Golden Weapons. Golden Power is a Combination Element which involves the Elements of Creation. Obviously if they possessed Golden Power then combining the Four would trigger that Golden Power. Lloyd later goes on to Unlock Golden Power and after he Loses it he isn't shown ever using those powers again. Although thank you for actually sourcing your argument.
Again, read what I said earlier. No shit he was amped from the Golden Weapons because he was literally absorbing their Power. Also, as I said before, the Stone Armor wasn't negated. Golden Master was simply growing in Power and making it less effective. I really should not have had to state this again.Zane died from the feat + was amped by TP + GWs + Anti Stone Armor. He can't scale to the feat and also that would put Zane above FSM
Also Lloyd: use green fire in S8 and Electricity in S11.Lloyd later goes on to Unlock Golden Power and after he Loses it he isn't shown ever using those powers again. Although thank you for actually sourcing your argument.
That's litterally resistance negationAlso, as I said before, the Stone Armor wasn't negated. Golden Master was simply growing in Power and making it less effective.
Both are Green which could qualify as Energy (AKA Lloyd's Element) and also we see Jay using Wind and Morro using Electricity at points. Even if he does still possess those Elements, my argument still stands.Also Lloyd: use green fire in S8 and Electricity in S11
Tommy didn't say anything about resistance negation. I already debunked this point of yours.That's litterally resistance negation
He still can, Cole in S8 states his powers are a combination of the main 4 elements of creation wrapped up togheter. He only lost the GP he obtained by becoming USM"You can harness all of the elemental powers" this was back when The Ninja's Elemental Powers were reliant on the Golden Weapons. Golden Power is a Combination Element which involves the Elements of Creation.
Fair. My point about the Golden Weapons and their Power still stands.He still can, Cole in S8 states his powers are a combination of the main 4 elements of creation wrapped up togheter. He only lost the GP he obtained by becoming USM
"Golden Master was simply growing in Power and making it less effective." He grew so strong his power completly bypassed the Anti Golden Armor resistances. If ur telling me this isn't resistance negation...Tommy didn't say anything about resistance negation. I already debunked this point of yours.
Considering the Stone Armor was stated multiple times to be "Invincible" even by users of Lesser Elements. Yeah? Stone Armor gives them insane Durability."Golden Master was simply growing in Power and making it less effective." He grew so strong his power completly bypassed the Anti Golden Armor resistances. If ur telling me this isn't resistance negation...
That 100% fits the negation abilityConsidering the Stone Armor was stated multiple times to be "Invincible" even by users of Lesser Elements. Yeah? Stone Armor gives them insane Durability.
Again, it could pass a less as an Ability and more as Durability but even if we do go buy your Logic we've seen characters who were a lot Weaker than the Ninja hold the GW/MW for long periods of time. A simple pirate struggled with Garmadon over the Mega Weapon before being disintegrated. Cole himself struggles with the Mega Weapon before being kicked away. Heck, even if we go by the logic that the Golden Weapons are Weaker and Completed the Golden Power (never stated or confirmed although, yes, it's a possibility) the Golden Master's Golden Power would still be reliant on the Golden Weapons. Without them he's simply fodder compared to his other two forms.That 100% fits the negation ability
Alright if you want to change the entire Ninjago Tiering System and make Zane 2-C, Golden Master 4-C or 6-A, and base Ninjas below 4-C, create a separate CRT. All of your logic simply goes against established power scaling system. In the current one:Wu and Garmadon statement was made while Overlord had a body.
The Combined Power... Cough cough When the Elements are combined and completing their power cough cough same logic applies to your speculation for Golden Master.
Proof?
Already debunked this.
Thanks for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you didn't read what I said.
Clearly wasn't trying to say they were and you'd know that if you knew how to read.
Once again proved my point about you not knowing how to read.Alright if you want to change the entire Ninjago Tiering System and make Zane 2-C, Golden Master 4-C or 6-A, and base Ninjas below 4-C, create a separate CRT. All of your logic simply goes against established power scaling system. In the current one:
Base Ninjas = Golden Weapons = 4-C
Golden Power = 2-C
If you want to say that 4-C power has more affect over GM’s power than 2-C power, then I don't see a point of talking to you. Although, no, sorry, I don't see it either way. Just create a separate CRT to change everything if you are unsatisfied with our work.
Unfollowing this thread.