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I'm sorry. I shouldn't be so rude or calling people names. It's just so ******* stressful when nobody wants to listen to you.
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Zane (Ninjago) should be Upgraded
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He was amped by USM's powers as well, not just the GWs. Scaling Zane to Overlord would put everyone above FSM which is not even true, and Zane was amped by TP + GWs while performing the feat, so it doesn't scale to his base
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GWs just completed his transformation. He doesn't look like he is transforming back to blob after Golden Armor is being absorbed, so he is no longer dependent on it. Golden Weapons creating land masses of Ninjago put them above Omega?
GWs cap at 4-C where most of the villains scale. Heck, even base Ninjas scale to them lmao, what are you talking about? They are simply used to complete transformation, not because it has Golden Power in it. Also if Golden Weapons have Golden Power, then Lloyd would no longer need USM form cuz his base form already has power of Golden WeaponsAnd I'll restate myself again: Golden Armor is NOT what makes Golden Master powerful. What makes him powerful is the fact that this body is his TRUE body, he has BOTH Darkness and Golden Power, and also has Golden Armor as the bonus. Me the one making headcanons? Who is the one who states that Golden Master is weaker than Dragon Overlord?
Funny if you think that your words about “quit the community brrrr” have any influence over me, I just don't ******* care and atp I'm here just to have a good laugh over your unsuccessful attempts to make your favorite Ninja above Overlord.
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Wu and Garmadon statement was made while Overlord had a body.
The Combined Power... Cough cough When the Elements are combined and completing their power cough cough same logic applies to your speculation for Golden Master.Golden Weapons creating land masses of Ninjago put them above Omega?
Proof?Also if Golden Weapons have Golden Power, then Lloyd would no longer need USM form cuz his base form already has power of Golden Weapons
Already debunked this.
Thanks for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you didn't read what I said.Me the one making headcanons? Who is the one who states that Golden Master is weaker than Dragon Overlord?
Clearly wasn't trying to say they were and you'd know that if you knew how to read.
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This is so wrong. GM obtained a power equal to FSM with USM's GP and the GWs. The weapons caps at 4-C and don't vary depending on the user
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Zane died from the feat + was amped by TP + GWs + Anti Stone Armor. He can't scale to the feat and also that would put Zane above FSM
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"You can harness all of the elemental powers" this was back when The Ninja's Elemental Powers were reliant on the Golden Weapons. Golden Power is a Combination Element which involves the Elements of Creation. Obviously if they possessed Golden Power then combining the Four would trigger that Golden Power. Lloyd later goes on to Unlock Golden Power and after he Loses it he isn't shown ever using those powers again. Although thank you for actually sourcing your argument.
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Again, read what I said earlier. No shit he was amped from the Golden Weapons because he was literally absorbing their Power. Also, as I said before, the Stone Armor wasn't negated. Golden Master was simply growing in Power and making it less effective. I really should not have had to state this again.
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That's litterally resistance negation
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Both are Green which could qualify as Energy (AKA Lloyd's Element) and also we see Jay using Wind and Morro using Electricity at points. Even if he does still possess those Elements, my argument still stands.
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Tommy didn't say anything about resistance negation. I already debunked this point of yours.
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He still can, Cole in S8 states his powers are a combination of the main 4 elements of creation wrapped up togheter. He only lost the GP he obtained by becoming USM
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Fair. My point about the Golden Weapons and their Power still stands.
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"Golden Master was simply growing in Power and making it less effective." He grew so strong his power completly bypassed the Anti Golden Armor resistances. If ur telling me this isn't resistance negation...
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Considering the Stone Armor was stated multiple times to be "Invincible" even by users of Lesser Elements. Yeah? Stone Armor gives them insane Durability.
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Again, it could pass a less as an Ability and more as Durability but even if we do go buy your Logic we've seen characters who were a lot Weaker than the Ninja hold the GW/MW for long periods of time. A simple pirate struggled with Garmadon over the Mega Weapon before being disintegrated. Cole himself struggles with the Mega Weapon before being kicked away. Heck, even if we go by the logic that the Golden Weapons are Weaker and Completed the Golden Power (never stated or confirmed although, yes, it's a possibility) the Golden Master's Golden Power would still be reliant on the Golden Weapons. Without them he's simply fodder compared to his other two forms.That 100% fits the negation ability
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Alright if you want to change the entire Ninjago Tiering System and make Zane 2-C, Golden Master 4-C or 6-A, and base Ninjas below 4-C, create a separate CRT. All of your logic simply goes against established power scaling system. In the current one:
Base Ninjas = Golden Weapons = 4-C
Golden Power = 2-C
If you want to say that 4-C power has more affect over GM’s power than 2-C power, then I don't see a point of talking to you. Although, no, sorry, I don't see it either way. Just create a separate CRT to change everything if you are unsatisfied with our work.
Unfollowing this thread.
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