Yujiro's "Precognition"

[Blackcurrant91]

Can you post a timestamp for what part this happens?

 

[Anttron224]

I edited the link

 

[Anttron224]

He looks at Kureha's form, then Baki's. He recognizes exactly what is going to happen and says that Kureha will lose to one punch. Baki then beats Kureha with a single punch.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

The fact that this feat was done again using Baki makes me question it. Yujiro has always been able to see Baki's fighting spirit but only cause hes a Hanma and he knows exactly what Baki is capable of.

All of Yujiro's feats of 'seeing somones fighting spirit' to see their techniques before they use them where all done to Baki.

 

[Anttron224]

This was based on techniques not spirits and I can find non-Baki examples.

 

[Anttron224]

The fighting spirit thing was added by someone a long time ago who either misinterpreted the spirits or was being disingenuous and wanted Yujiro to have precog. This is unrelated to that.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

I would argue he did the feat you linked via his info analysis and not precog tbh.

 

[Dienomite22]

I think Anttron224 is correct here

"Precognition may be based on any number of factors; it may be based on reading the minute body movements of an opponent, predicting their actions through observation, mathematical predictions, or through some unspecified magical or astronomical means, among any other number of abilities."

This is what Yujiro did, he predicted the outcome of the fight by reading both Baki and Kureha's forms and sees the technique Baki was using to determine the fight.Though it's likely limited to only martial arts, nothing magical or supernatural and likely limited to only the martial arts Yujiro knows, which is technically every martial art on the planet in Baki so there's that.

 

[Anttron224]

His information analysis is structural and cellular, not martial arts based. Although his vast understanding of martial arts could be added to his info analysis.

 

[Anttron224]

I concur @Dienomite22

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Honestly he doesn't do it enough for it to be considered precog. He takes multiple hits in his fights with Doppo Orochi and Kaku Kaioh. If Yujiro actually had precog in combination with how advanced his martial arts techiques are and the sheer degree to which he is more skilled then ANYONE in Baki he wouldn't ever get hit by anyone.

 

[Anttron224]

But he also likes to screw around and toy with people. The reason he let Doppo hit him was so he could pretend it hurt, let the audience get excited, then smash Doppo. It's just that Doppo is no fool and knew that Yujiro was just toying around. With Kaku Kaioh, I think he was just skilled enough to be able to hit Yujiro consistently.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Blackcurrant91 That is a good point, ngl

 

[Anttron224]

Because the whole point of the Kaku Kaioh fight was to show that you can't beat Yujiro's overwhelming strength with techniques alone, you need raw power.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

You can't 'outskill' precog though. You can either precog physical attacks or you can't. If he was just toying with Doppo he wouldn't have had to go Demon Back to defeat him. He even states Doppo is strong enough for him to use his real power against him.

 

[Anttron224]

If you look at their fight he was toying with him until the end when he realized Doppo wasn't going to go down if he stays casual, so he got serious and whipped out the demon back. This was even more emphasized in the anime.

 

[Anttron224]

Doppo did no real damage to Yujiro at all, he was just barely eating the damage.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

If Yujiro had precog then there is no way Doppo could have dodged any of his attacks.

(With his extreme mastery over the Sangan technique, Doppo was able to dodge Yujiro's attacks relatively easy. A suppressed Yujiro was unable to keep up with Doppo's onslaught of attacks)

On his profile currently.

 

[Anttron224]

He also never stated that, Baki saw that Doppo was still alive and Yujiro got pissed and ended his life with the demon back. That statement was anime only.

 

[Anttron224]

Sangan is a technique that allows you to see from every angle and react accordingly, which was the only reason he was able to keep up, and then Yujiro ripped out his eye so he couldn't use it anymore.

 

[Anttron224]

To be honest those descriptions are inaccurate and are based on deleted videos so I'm going to have to fix that.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

I think he has a form of precognition for Martial arts attacks for sure but its not perfect precog and we have already added this note to this profile so.

 

[Anttron224]

There is no note, unless you're talking about his Enhanced Sixth description, which isn't the same.

I think it should say: Precognition (Can predict that outcome of a battle just by looking at a fighting stance, but it is limited to his understanding of martial arts)

or

Limited Precognition (Can predict that outcome of a battle just by looking at a fighting stance, but it is restricted to his understanding of martial arts)

 

[Blackcurrant91]

He even says to Baki 'if you screw this up your donefore' if he PERFECTLY knew the outcome of the fight based on Baki's stance he wouldn't have suggested there is any chance of Baki screwing it up. He is just absurdly skilled at Martial arts honestly.

 

[Anttron224]

So he saw two outcomes, ok. You can have Precog for predicting multiple outcomes as long as they're accurate.

 

[Dienomite22]

So he saw two outcomes, ok. You can have Precog for predicting multiple outcomes as long as they're accurate.

That's not really seeing two outcomes.His prediction was "Baki will win with 1 hit" so there's only two outcomes to that prediction

 

[Blackcurrant91]

It's not really prediction when the second outcome is literally the exact polar opposite of the first.

The opposite of Baki not finishing it in one hit is Baki screwing it up.