Yujiro Hanma vs Composite Human. Peace Treaty is off

[Golfgan]

That's why I was asking about whether or not we do follow SBA in regard to how the battle starts.

If he is teleported in Central Park, he would first need to get to that underground bunker before detonating the bomb; and fast enough so that Yujiro can't just follow him.

 

[Wokistan]

I think that "as much prep as needed" kinda negates SBA a bit, since that's not exactly a standard battle procedure. Iap can just specify how he wants it to be tho.

 

[DMUA]

Human has as much prep as they need to take full advantage of their arsenal.

 

[IvoryAS]

would 5 years prep be better?

The OP considered changing it.

We should get this settled ASAP because under those circumstances, Yujiro never even has to see his opponent before he dies.

 

[KirbyArepa1204]

CH takes this via having access to all of the world's arsenal if CH is given as much prep time as needed. CH could also speed blitz with modern fighting jets.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

How much prep do you guys think is good enough for this to be a good match but not a stomp?

 

[KirbyArepa1204]

How much prep do you guys think is good enough for this to be a good match but not a stomp?

Eh? Around 6 months to a year?

 

[IvoryAS]

CH takes this via having access to all of the world's arsenal if CH is given as much prep time as needed. CH could also speed blitz with modern fighting jets.

Speed Blitz with fighter jets? Which ones

 

[KirbyArepa1204]

CH takes this via having access to all of the world's arsenal if CH is given as much prep time as needed. CH could also speed blitz with modern fighting jets.

Speed Blitz with fighter jets? Which ones

The MiG-25 can reach Mach 2 speed, the equivalent of 3600 km/h.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Which is super slow against Yujiro who is Hypersonic+.

 

[Golfgan]

I think that "as much prep as needed" kinda negates SBA a bit, since that's not exactly a standard battle procedure. Iap can just specify how he wants it to be tho.

So... Iap, how does the battle starts? Is CH teleported to Central Park w/ the stuff he prepared?

Or is only Yujiro teleported? and CH can start wherever he wants. Example: start the battle while being in a buncker on the Moon.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

KH knows he is gonna need to be at this place at a certain time, so he will plan accordingly

 

[KirbyArepa1204]

Which is super slow against Yujiro who is Hypersonic+.

Thanks for informing me. Either way, I just feel like CH takes this. Human can just simply sit back, launch mortar strikes, nukes and the like from the security of a bunker.

 

[IvoryAS]

Bump

 

[Golfgan]

Thanks for informing me. Either way, I just feel like CH takes this. Human can just simply sit back, launch mortar strikes, nukes and the like from the security of a bunker.

Well, according to the comment just above yours, CH needs to at least show up at Central Park at the start of the battle. So if he wants to nuke from a bunker, he needs to get to that bunker from Central Park without getting killed. Does he have any ways to do so?

 

[TacticalNuke002]

IAP hasn't specified SBA and his conditions violate it anyway, so SBA is not on. CH can hit from anywhere it wants. As much prep as it wants is probably a stomp because a working moonbase is very possible and Yujiro can't hit someone on the moon.

 

[Wokistan]

CH can build a bunker in central park, with enough time and resources. SBA is on when its not specified though. The Standard part of Standard Battle Assumptions is a thing for a reason.

 

[Golfgan]

To be honest if CH can start below or above Central Park then the scenario described by Tactical is (nearly) correct, except that instead of being on the Moon, he'll be in the ISS (or something similar) above Central Park. And Yujiro can't possibly hit someone in space.

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

now that i think about, CH knows everything that all humans, until now, know, so u know, he kinda knows all sorts of stratagies ever invented, the geography of the whole planet, has knowledge of every fight, battler, and war fought... he should here by expirience alone lol hahaha

 

[Moritzva]

So what are the votes? I kinda want to see this added.

 

[Golfgan]

Considering CH is supposed to be able to start and fight while being arbitrarily above or below Central Park, I'm not sure it can be added. Unless Yujiro has an ability allowing him to split the sky or the Earth.

 

[DMUA]

If he punched the ground really hard, a direct hit onto whatever bomb shelter the human is in would render him dead.

 

[Wokistan]

There's no reason for Yujiro to know that CH is on one, though.

 

[DMUA]

Yeah but if he did

 

[Golfgan]

From what I read by google it, proper underground nuclar bunker are resistant to "severe earthquake" too. So even if he knew, he'll still lack the necessary ability.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Gonna point out that there are people around, not that it matters.

CH just dirty bomb the place into fallout

 

[DMUA]

Resistance to earthquakes

Not resistance to being directly hit by a nuke

IE

If you have a nuke land directly on a nuclear base, it's gone, it's only meant to take the blast which is effected by the busy of the inverse square

 

[Moritzva]

If OP can specify that Composite Human has to actually stay on Earth and that Yuj knows where he is when the battle starts, this could possibly be added.

 

[Golfgan]

Resistance to earthquakes
Not resistance to being directly hit by a nuke

IE

If you have a nuke land directly on a nuclear base, it's gone, it's only meant to take the blast which is effected by the busy of the inverse square

What do you mean? I don't understand. The bunker is underground, nothing is gonna hit it directly. CH can at least build the bunker as deep as the deepest underground base humanity has ever made. I didn't manage to get info on military bases but as far as mines go: you can find way more than 2 km deep. Yujiro would need mountain level AP to reach this deep from a punch on the surface... But he is only small town level.

 

[DMUA]

Don't think he'd need quite that level but now I see what you're getting at

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Even without that, instead of nukes CH could just use dirty bombs (All the radiation of a nuke, a lot more actually, but nearly none of the AP).

 

[IvoryAS]

Bump

 

[Marquis_Samigina]

CH via biological weapons.

 

[Moritzva]

The issue we have is that a bunch of people listed why CH would win but didn't specify if they were voting lol.

If you are voting on this thread, could you please restate your vote so we can tell who's voting for who and why?

Still voting CH btw.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Voting CH in that case

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I can't keep track of the votes at this point, but we might be in grace, not sure

 

[Moritzva]

Very few people explicitly stated their votes.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Exactly. That's the issue

 

[Anttron224]

Yujiro is super resistant to poison.

https://imgur.com/a/eZCdMqU

 

[Moritzva]

Radiation and poisons far more potent than that?