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Ok, so currently Yor Forger's speed is listed here as Supersonic+/Hypersonic with Projectiles from the feat of hitting a tennis ball fast enough that Fiona was unable to perceive her actions, her throws consistently break the sound barrier as well. Based on my observations, Yor is definitely Hypersonic+ and the entire verse should probably be looked at again in terms of speed since Twilight (who the author has stated has 70% of Yor's physical abilities), too, is listed at Supersonic+.
I'm not a calcer so i will just lay out my observations and arguments with lots of references, and if you want to do the math and/or correct me on something, you're welcome to do so.
Anyway, that's all from me. I hope someone on the wiki team reads this and considers taking a second look at Yor's profile. And if you do, i appreciate the time you put into reading this, thanks!
I'm not a calcer so i will just lay out my observations and arguments with lots of references, and if you want to do the math and/or correct me on something, you're welcome to do so.
In Chapter 51, Yor dodges a sniper rifle after it was fired. The shot is clearly fired first, the sniper even states that they dodged his shot. She couldn't completely avoid it but i would ascribe that to having to protect multiple civilians from the shot, and Yor also not having slept for 3 days which would have impacted her reaction speed. I don't know how fast a sniper rifle is, this feat by itself could possibly put her at Hypersonic+.
In Chapter 52, she fights a bunch of pro assassins, some of which are also bullet timers and therefore Supersonic+ (since only a handgun was used), this assassin here was mid-swing, got shot at and then raises his hand in time to intercept two bullets from hitting his head. Yor then kills him before he can move. Keep in mind also that Yor is fighting 20 other people at the same time here and killed him instantly, she absolutely scales to him and should be far superior to him in speed as one of the best assassins in the entire country and her following feat of killing all of the other assassins on the ship who attacked her. Not only that, he was also not the only bullet timer there, yet again Yor catches the assassin with ease and kills him instantly.
As mentioned in her profile, the sound-barrier-breaking swing in her profile was Yor holding back - Fiona was completely unable to perceive the first swing, and Fiona is proven to have Supersonic speed. Wouldn't being able to move fast enough that a Supersonic+ character cannot perceive your actions put your speed at Hypersonic? (without the asterisk of "Hypersonic with projectiles") Now i am aware, attack speed ≠ movement speed, so i compiled some further speed feats here, like afterimage creation and what for the lack of a better description looks like a Instant Transmission. Like i said, im not a calcer, i don't know if these last feats are actually Hypersonic+ (although im fairly certain Afterimage creation definitely is) but again its already proven that she can basically blitz bullet timer based on the cruise ship feats and the Fiona match, these are just supplementary speed feats to prove that it isn't some crazy outlier, and she is consistently leaving Supersonic speed in the dust.
Conclusion: I know that only the fastest bullets can reach hypersonic speed, but these assassin who are fodder compared to Yor are proven Supersonic+ as well as Fiona, and we know from the authors official scaling in the Fanbook Eyes only, Fiona >>>Twilight >> Yor. Not to mention, her throwing speed already exceeds Hypersonic+ speed. The Volleyball feat was low-balled like nothing else, and i understand why, i am just stating that she can probably throw harder, especially since we know she was holding back in the Volleyball match, trying to appear normal. So that """outlier""" feat of Yor putting a Volleyball into deep space was possibly not even her full strength.
On that note, let me just address a point here, since some people on the 8-B discussion said the Volleyball feat is a outlier (not gonna name anyone because i don't want to start drama and everyone has the right to their own opinion anyway): SxF is a verse filled with superhumans and Yor is not the only one, just the strongest one. No, i don't even need to use Twilight. Here is a small compilation of feats from side characters that break peak human limitations. My point is, even though this isn't a fantasy verse, there are humans that are blatantly and obviously stronger than any humans could be. There are many verses like this (Baki, Tokyo Revengers, Sakamoto Days) where it's understood that despite taking place in a somewhat realistic world, the verse allows for superhumans and therefore feats such as yeeting a Volleyball into space to exist, yet i see people, here and everywhere else, putting the SxF verse under this scrutiny and calling every remotely superhuman feat "comedy" and "outlier" when the author has clearly abandoned the notion of his characters abiding by human limits.Anyway, that's all from me. I hope someone on the wiki team reads this and considers taking a second look at Yor's profile. And if you do, i appreciate the time you put into reading this, thanks!