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Yor Briar VS Yu (The Boxer)

Damn.

Yu ain't got all that crazy ******* skill shit with assassins and stuff. But uh, I may as well list his skill feats.

In the beginning of the series, when he hadn't even learned boxing nor gone through any physical training, he was able to effortlessly defeat Ryu Baeksan, who was previously stated multiple times to be an insane boxing genius capable of beating up dozens upon dozens of gangsters without so much as a scratch on his body due to his extremely fluid and flexible fighting style. This same Ryu Baeksan was capable of also taking on a Super middleweight professional boxer despite also not having any formal training and would've most likely won had the fight been outside of a boxing ring and unrestricted by the rules of a boxing match, and K, a legendary coach who was trained a bunch of ultra-talented world champion boxers, acknowledged that he also could've become one.

So uh, Yu beat him effortlessly without any form of training and put him in the hospital lmfao.

After that we just get a bunch of shit with Yu beating the **** out of a bunch of fodder boxers yeah it isn't really a skill feat for him at that point.

But then we get to Jean Pierre, the 10-year reigning World Lightweight boxing champion, a guy who has never lost a single boxing match in his life and has tirelessly perfected his skills in boxing through meditation in which he worked to gain control over all the functions of his body, and was so obsessed with perfection that despite his literally near flawless performance in a boxing match where he made literally every correct decision he could've possibly made, he was still unsatisfied and continued sharpening his skills. This same Jean Pierre also became World Champion as soon as he made his boxing debut and is a genius fighter even above Ryu Baeksan to an abnormal degree, even.

But this isn't compared at all to when Jean Pierre went through an evolution after fighting off a bunch of gangsters all with weapons, including knives and guns, said evolution giving him the ability to perfectly control every function in his body and feel the slightest muscular movements in his own body, to the point he was able to even feel each individual little brustle thing of a toothbrush against his teeth as he brushed his teeth extremely distinctly. So yeah, it's safe to say that Jean Pierre pre-evolution is nothing compared to Jean Pierre post-evolution, who also has analytical prediction through reading shit like muscle movements, one's gaze, the angle of their foot and tension in their muscles and all that along.

So uh yeah, Yu beat him effortlessly. Never even took a single hit from the guy. The fight was so hopelessly one-sided that it couldn't even really be called a fight.

THEN we go to Yuto Takeda, a boxer with such abhorrent talent that most other average boxer would've surpassed him rather swiftly. To skip all the details, Yuto is an extreme hard worker who has trained in boxing skills to abnormal degrees literally his entire life, to the point he has gone through multiple limit breaks where he was even capable of beating a japanese combat genius who was stated to be the "future of Japanese boxing". After this yadayada you get the idea, Yuto became the World Light Welterweight champion.

Cut to Yu's fight with Yuto, in which the entire fight Yu beat Yuto down effortlessly and took no hits. The fight was, again, so hopelessly one-sided in Yu's favor, that even when Yuto ULTRA broke through his limits and gained actually gained the abilities of a combat genius even though he was already capable of beating combat geniuses, which made him even more of a ******* combat genius, Yu still effortlessly annihilated him in a fight. Like seriously, Yu literally crippled this dude and ended his boxing career that's how ******* one-sided Yu vs Yuto was like holy shit that fight was AWESOME. In the fight he was even able to copy Yuto's style with even more speed and precision than Yuto himself could perform it despite Yuto having spent his entire life perfecting those moves, so yeah.

But uh yeah. We still have more to go.

Then Yu went on to be completely fookin' invincible for a while longer and effortlessly ending all his matches and shit, but then Santorino Fabrizio and his brown shit-stain brother came along and yada yada let's just skip this.

The Santorino brothers are basically cheaters. They use illegal moves in matches, pay off the referees to let them slide, use drugs, use intimidation tactics and other mental tactics such as harassment and all that other stuff to throw an opponent off during their match. In his fight with Yu, Fabrizio used ultra steroids and yada yada this isn't really a good skill feat Fabrizio isn't even that good of a boxer without cheating.

But yeah it was stated that no matter what tricks or cheats that the Santorino brothers used that they would stand absolutely 0 chance against Yu in the first place, so here's some more statements of Yu being literally ******* insane.

Now here comes the fun part, in which were Yu faught Viktor Gregoryevich, who was the cruiserweight world champion. But was it skill, mind you? No, it was not. Viktor was just really, really, really lucky. He was so lucky, that he could survive getting struck by lightning. So lucky, that a hungry grizzly bear charging at him slipped and he was able to knock it out. So lucky, that boxers that were initially far more skilled than him could be defeated just by them slipping. That's how lucky this guy was. He was the strongest cruiserweight boxer in the entire world because he was just. that. *******. lucky.

So uh, Yu defeated him, effortlessly. Viktor's weight did make him slip, but, since Yu is a gigachad he was able to remember a vague move from Ryu Baeksan from like 5 years ago, twisted around, regained his footing instantly and proceeded to one-shot Viktor. So he's definitely the adaptable type, if that counts for anything.

But then we have Yu's fight with the monster that could finally match him, Aaron Tide. The King **** of Shit Mountain. The literal strongest man in the world.

To emphasize Aaron's absurd physical advantage over Yu, we can go into one of his first feats, which is when he was stabbed, he clenched his muscles so tightly that the person who stabbed him couldn't pull the knife out. That's how dense his muscles are. And he then proceeded to casually shatter the man's skull with a single punch. Aaron's strength was so absurd, that one of K's formerly acknowledged pupils(forgot his name), who was also an abnormal combat genius who without any formal training was capable of beating up legions of gangsters, could not even hurt this guy. He showered Aaron with blow after blow and he did not flinch at all. That is how strong Aaron Tide is.

In his fight with Yu, Aaron's strength was so absurd, so potent, that if a single solid hit connected with Yu, he'd die. He'd literally ******* explode right then and there, that's how hard Aaron physically thrashed Yu. To even prepare for the fight, Yu had to train by having ******* cannon balls being shot at him from all directions just to simulate how ******* insane Aaron's strength was, and of course he was able to dodge all of them. But that's just how much he needed to prepare to fight Aaron, cause no matter how much skill Jean Pierre had, or how much tenacity Yuto Takeda had, or how many tricks or drugs the Santorino brothers used, Aaron was, quite literally, unstoppable to all of that.

In the actual fight, Aaron was throwing punches that could both speed blitz and one-shot Yu, and Yu was dodging and weaving all of them. It got even worse when Aaron actually felt as though his life was threatened when Yu began throwing those dura neg punches, which is when he actually started using boxing skills and concentrated his monstrous power, allowing him to deliver attacks that were so fast and strong that Yu couldn't really see them. To even survive, Yu had to just barely deflect the attacks with his fist, a movement that he needed to be absolutely perfect at performing, as if he even got the trajectory off even by a little, his fist would literally explode upon contact with Aaron. Yu was doing all of this, and still only suffered minor cuts from Aaron, having never actually taken a direct hit from the man the entire fight despite his absolutely ludicrous stat advantage. There was even a point in the fight where Yu was able to adapt to Aaron's ludicrous speed and power, becoming so fast that literally nobody in the room could see either his or Aaron's movements despite previously needing to deflect his punches to survive.

But uh yeah Yu defeated Aaron, though granted Aaron made the conscious decision to pull back his punches on that, so that's not really a feat, but yeah, he still won.

So at this point Yu is quite literally the strongest boxer in all of history and then some. That's how ludicrously genius he is.
I also suggest that anybody who comes to this match READ THIS before commenting or voting, as this is all of Yu's skill feats compiled into one.
 
I'm literally in the middle of adding shit to the profile and getting feats calced dude wait a bit for everything to be completely fleshed out. 🗿
hmmm, maybe Jean throwing 3 punches in 300ms(0.3s) is a good one, possibly... that was in Episode 116
 
If Yor truly is like 700x this dude's AP, then his organ damage hax isn't gonna work.
That's not true durability negation, it's more like durability "mitigation", it enables one to attack the internals of a target, with internal almost always being more vulnerable. This is likely why on his profile it's limited durability negation. Limited being the keyword.
But that only goes so far, internals still have to have a degree of comparative durability, otherwise just getting hit at higher tiers would liquify their organs due to how shock is absorbed, while Yor's guts are likely far less durable, they're still gonna be quite sturdy. And if she's over 100x this other dude, well yeah, that's a bit to much of a jump to say he just lol organ negs.

Think of it like this way, would you think this dude can punch Superman or Kenshiro and neg their organs? Of course not, because while they aren't as tough as the muscles, bones and what not, they still have a relative comparability to it, even if it's far less.

If Yor was like 10, maybe even 20x this dude, I could see the organ hax bringing that gap, as some organs very well are quite fragile, but over 100? Nah, not happening. Now you might say "well it hurt these dudes he couldnt hurt otherwise!", well yes, that might be true, matter of the fact is that means **** all, are these dudes over 700x as strong as him? If not then it's a false equivalence, of course hurting someone's organs that you couldn't hurt is possible, but what's the limit on that? Do you think this would work on like a Tyranitar or Frieza? Of course not, they're trillions to like decillions of times stronger, their organs would be unharmed. So that begs the question, how far above were these dudes? 10x? 100x? 100000x? If they're not as high as Yor, then that argument is useless. Furthermore, it's entirely possible that's just a weakness on their end, if all he's doing is attacking the organs, and it hurts dude's way above him, that might just mean their organs ain't built diff like you'd expect someone hundred's of times above you to be.
For this argument to work, we need to have 1. these dude's he's weaker than to be as strong or stronger than Yor. 2. An explanation as to why his organ damaging attacks could hurt someone that far above them because that just implies those dude's organs aren't relative to their body like they should be, especially the heart, the heart isn't exactly a weak organ like entrails or the brain, it's an extremely tough and sturdy muscle.


Voting Yor. Organ hax is bordering on NLF in this match, it's not clearing nearly a whole magnitude difference without some damn good feats. Yor should be able to just facetank everything and one shot.
 
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Fair enough. Yu's dura neg hax is off the table, then.

But before anybody votes or declares a stomp, I'd like to ask, again, for the millionth time, how is Yor going to reliably hit him when he can see her in slow motion and has dealt with characters far, far faster than himself? I know Yu can't actually damage her but I just want to know because people keep refusing to address it, and I'd like to get an answer.

And I know it isn't on the profile or in the speed section, but it's one(of many) things that makes him a dodge god is having reaction speed that scales far above his normal speed. I'd just like to know before I go to sleep.
 
Good question, he does seem more skilled than her, I'll give him that. She does have weapons though and iirc she's pretty good with them and sleight of hand, all she needs is a graze to win (think of it like a high caliber ammunition grazing someone, it might not be a direct hit, but that force is going to blow their arm off anyway).

If he can avoid those still, it becomes a matter of, can he outlast her or will she outlast him stamina wise?
 
I don't think she can graze him, though. Yu has, unironically, dealt with that before. Though not to this extent since Aaron didn't ******* make his arm explode, a single direct hit would've made whatever part Aaron's fist made mush, and Aaron was at multiple points several times faster than Yu, so while not comparable in strength, I think the speed part is more important.

So it really does come down to stamina, if we are to assume Yor will be unable to hit him.
 
Stamina wise idk, I think Yor went a whole day with an untreated bullet wound to the ass and 3 days without sleep while guarding something?
Unsure on that, maybe Witch or Baken would know better.

What's this dude's stamina looking like?
 
Eh, she probably outlasts him if that's the case. Yu is, at best, a "likely Peak Human" and has never fought for days on end or some weirdo shit like that.

His best feat so far is enduring severe blood lost, a dislocated shoulder, having his fists severely ****** up from continuously dura neg punching the steel wall that is Aaron(which also made his hands bleed through his glove), and continuing the fight rather fine. There wasn't really an indicated rest period after the match either, so I can't really assume his injuries in his fight with Aaron even inconvenienced him given he got back to being a boxing deity like a chapter or two later.

Honestly this is probably Peak Human so I dunno.
 
I'd say calculate Aaron putting a hole in a wall and get his AP and then we'll talk dura neg potency
 
I'd say calculate Aaron putting a hole in a wall and get his AP and then we'll talk dura neg potency
I'm getting the Aaron ******* up a wall thing calculated, I'm just waiting for somebody to take the request on the Calculations Requests thread.
 
Post scan, if it's something i can do in like five minutes I will.
 
I'm busy, I might not even do this, if it's really braindead I will tho, and if both are, I'll do both.
Just post whatever you want and if I do, I do, if I don't, I don't, we'll see.
 
This is a stomp for Yor. While I can't say much for either of them but why putting a guy against someone who could obviously one shot him? Yu's advantage are his speed but he literally can't scratch her even with limited dura neg punches. Yor also got higher stamina and pain endurance than Yu so outlasting her is definitely not an option.
 
This is a stomp for Yor. While I can't say much for either of them but why putting a guy against someone who could obviously one shot him? Yu's advantage are his speed but he literally can't scratch her even with limited dura neg punches. Yor also got higher stamina and pain endurance than Yu so outlasting her is definitely not an option.
So you just didn't read the parts of the thread where we already discussed these exact points I see. 🗿
 
Bit of a low end but I got like 0.00005347 tons of TNT, so 9-B for the fist. Could be higher though I just used average thumb width (highest end tho because he's a big dude) and then took the diameter across, the vertical diameter is higher so it might be closer to an ellipsoid, but it's still gonna be just marginally higher.
 
Bit of a low end but I got like 0.00005347 tons of TNT, so 9-B for the fist. Could be higher though I just used average thumb width (highest end tho because he's a big dude) and then took the diameter across, the vertical diameter is higher so it might be closer to an ellipsoid, but it's still gonna be just marginally higher.
I could give you a full-body image of him if that helps, but he has his arms crossed so if you need the size of his fists the image won't really work for your purposes lol.
 
Well anyway, high end would make it so while the gap isn't 700x, it's still like 300x, which I guess is an upgrade of like 2x but nonetheless, not much changes.
 
Yu don't even scale to Aaron's feat anyway so that wouldn't much change the result of this fight. The only thing that could really change anything is the him punching a hyuge punching bag feat.
 
Tbh it won't.
Definitely a huge effected area, but rock pulv is hundreds of times better than whatever he's doing there. It'd be 9-B but it won't be as high simply because of the effected material.
 
Well I still need it calced anyway to put it on the page lol.

But uh yeah Yor stomps either way it doesn't matter lmao.
 
Well, after some CRTs, Yu has finally been upgraded to 9A (Capable of KOing a dude with one punch who did a ~0.013 tons feat)

Doubt I need to make a new thread, so, bump!
 
The AP difference is now barely a 2x advantage in Yor's favor.

If you want the specific numbers, she has a 1.98461538462x AP advantage. So yeah the difference is negligible as **** now.
 
Yu hands Yor an L, ratioes her, t-bags her, mollywops her, sandbags her, etc.
 
Yor because she’s hot
Yu just ain’t my type

Anyways fr Yu due to them skills
 
I prefer my violent people to be upfront crazy personally
 
So you don't like the cold, emotionless, suicidal, violent, freakishly strong type?
they don't like sociopaths, yes even if that sociopathy is caused by extremely bad family conditions and solved by my man J
 
Idk what that chick found in Yu tbh
Then again women IRL for some reason gets hits for serial killers so
 
Idk what that chick found in Yu tbh
Then again women IRL for some reason gets hits for serial killers so
She saw him come out of the shower all hot looking and immediately felt something building in her nether regions.
 
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