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Yog-Sothtoth is tier 0?
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If Azathoth werent a thing, Yog would be tier 0
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Omnipotence is arbitrary, meaning "all-powerful" at its base. From one point of view, he is, and is even referred to such. On the other hand, he has a being which underpins him (Azathoth) and thus cannot be tier 0, as these tiers are not about omnipotence, but composite hierarchy.
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If he is below someone, he is automatically not omnipotent.
Omnipotence is a peer of the concept of infinite worlds and Absolute Infinity, where removing something, no matter how small or irrelevant it is, invalidates it altogether.
Omnipotence is a peer of the concept of infinite worlds and Absolute Infinity, where removing something, no matter how small or irrelevant it is, invalidates it altogether.
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Yes.
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Omnipotence isn't remotely arbitrary.
The version we use, aka illogical omnipotence, isn't at least.
The version we use, aka illogical omnipotence, isn't at least.
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Maybe that's not the right wording. What I mean though is: for Omnipresence and Omniscience, if you occupy all spots in a domain or know everything within the context of that verse, you qualify, even if you exist at a far more limited level than say, a High 1-B or 1-A character. But yet, Omnipotence is usually categorized as being beyond everything, no matter what.
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Yes, because omniscience and omnipresence are both sub-abilities of omnipotence. They don't hold a candle to it.
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Well. Yog-soth is still technically omnipotent, since Azathoth is not a actual "thing".
But we still use questionable omnipotence, before all else.
But, to put it simple. Omnipotence is not meant to proven, whether possibly or impossibly. Since being proven only subjects this whole metaphor and idea to a "limiting".
Also, nobody is questioning nobody here.
But we still use questionable omnipotence, before all else.
But, to put it simple. Omnipotence is not meant to proven, whether possibly or impossibly. Since being proven only subjects this whole metaphor and idea to a "limiting".
Also, nobody is questioning nobody here.
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My apologies; I didn't see the second part of Kep's comment about "our version". I am definitely not questioning the tiering system, I was mostly discussing the nature of omnipotence, which if I remember correctly, you have said before we do not really use to gauge characters. That's all. Either way, I'd prefer not to get too deep into that kind of discussion.
My apologies; I didn't see the second part of Kep's comment about "our version". I am definitely not questioning the tiering system, I was mostly discussing the nature of omnipotence, which if I remember correctly, you have said before we do not really use to gauge characters. That's all. Either way, I'd prefer not to get too deep into that kind of discussion.
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Yog-Sothoth is not omnipotent. Our system makes it High 1-A at best.
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Yog isn't omnipotent
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Azathoth is above him, there's the proof.
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It's 100% impossible for two omnipotent beings to exist
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He isn't omnipotent in the sense no fictional character is omnipotent
But he is omnipotent in-verse.
But he is omnipotent in-verse.
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No offense, but I don't think you actually know what omnipotence is.
It isn't a metaphor. You can do literally anything you want.
It isn't a metaphor. You can do literally anything you want.
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No, only metaphors, can literally represent the idea of something which is always more powerful regardless of hierarchy. Omnipotence is simply not meant to be proven in-verse, otherwise it's meaningless.
And again, I don't need to make "sense" when talking about a "boundless". Because that's literally impossible, within context.
Boundless does not describe power, or more specifically it's not realizable at all. It's a huge understatement, to think it's just "beyond" omnipotence.
And again, I don't need to make "sense" when talking about a "boundless". Because that's literally impossible, within context.
Boundless does not describe power, or more specifically it's not realizable at all. It's a huge understatement, to think it's just "beyond" omnipotence.
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I kinda think you have no idea of what you are talking about right now.
No offense.
No offense.
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What is this nonsense going on here? You can't be omnipotent if there is someone stronger than you, that makes no sense, and why is this thread still open? Question has already been answered.
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