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Yin Tian Shen Yin Series | Verse & Profile Addition | 1-A
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Georredannea15
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But that doesn't mean you have a deeper nothingness than that nonexistent building. I mean exactly that. That is, "there is a state of existence and non-existence, and I am not in these two states or I am between in these two states", but this cannot be interpreted as a deeper non-existence than non-existence.
Of course the staff will make a better decision on the matter.
Also Yhwach qualified for Type 1 and 3 NEP with a very similar statement with this statement.
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Can't wait for him (Ant) to give an essay on how Chinese novel is made to spread government propoganda and how they are just cruel, merciless, only for power scaling, etc...
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Bruh
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- Leakless Body Realm - Seems fine to me
- Gold Core Realm (Dharma Body) - Disagree with;
-> High-Godly = This is not High-Godly. It does not fit any requirements- At least I didn't see anything enough for it
-> Agree with the rest
- Gold Core Realm (Main Body) - Disagree with;
-> Nonexistent Physiology = Nature type 2 requires the lack of both existence and non-existence. Existing in between them is not enough for this.
-> Agree with the rest
- Creator Realm (Avatars) - Disagree with;
-> Existence Erasure & Telekinesis (Creators are capable of destroying worlds, and shattering stars and galaxies with a thought(Raw))[61]
This is not Existence Erasure
-> Agree with the rest
- Creator Realm (True Body) - Disagree with;
-> Accelerated Development (Passive, Physical Statistics; Gao Chuan as a Creator and a Cultivator is constantly growing stronger with no upper limit(Raw))[71]
This is not passive or anything like that. It is simply talking about the fact that because he's a cultivator, he continues to develop. It's not that he's developing automatically every second and every moment- But I don't have much problem with that, maybe I misinterpreted this IDK.
-> Agree with the rest
- Penultimate (True Will) - Seems fine ig. But I didn't read carefully, so it would be better if you ignore me in this part.
- Penultimate (Origin of the World) - Disagree with;
-> Acausality (Type 5; Things' like causality and fate exist as a part of the long river of time, as such in places where space and time are near destruction, matter becomes static, causality becomes frozen, and even the beings in such places are almost non-existent, unable to be attacked in anyway, with only time starting again being an effective way to affect them. It is stated that Gao Chuan transcends time and space entirely, as such he would be even harder to interact with(Raw, Raw, Raw, Raw))[46][73][73]
Seems Type 4 to me- I have not seen any evidence that the causality mentioned here includes not only those that exist but also those that possibly exist. Type 5 is not so easy to have: What separates Type 5 from Type 4 is independence from all causal systems that can and already do exist. Just being independent of what exists only gives Type 4.
-> Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5; Gao Chuan's consciousness has stepped into Nirvana, a realm of nothingness, that other existences can't even feel, the origin of the world deeper than the void. Nirvana is stated to be the concept of nothingness(Raw, Raw, Raw))[65][53]
Again, this is not Nature Type 2- And IDC about Aspect Types at all, so I don't have comments about them
-> Agree with the rest
- Ultimate - Seems fine
Note: I haven't read what was written for AP and Speed (Cuz I'm lazy asf), so I don't have any comments about them
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Georredannea15
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Acausality type 5 if that's really it, I agree with you. This Acausality should not be Type 5.
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Their Avatars can regenerate their cores, which include their Mind, Body, Spirit, and Essence of Existence, which is obviously fundamental.
It is neither, existence nor non-existence, check the scan.
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He is, he is constantly growing stronger as a Creator, he has like an automatic farm, it's hard to explain.
Is deeper than the void, the concept of nothingness, with void as I already explained, is neither existence nor non-existence (Read the scan), and is further stated to be between them.
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Georr admit your wrong. It literally says between, prove it is at the same time.
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Your explanation is a bit different then what is stated on the wiki.
He is independent of cause and effect, he even transcends it. Beings lesser than him who are still apart of time and space can't be affected or attacked, and practically don't exist.
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Being between existence and non-existence is not the same as being completely lack of existence and non-existence. That's what I meant dear.
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This is Mid-Godly- But IDK you can put me neutral in this if u want
Well, I'm not sure ngl. It still looks like Type 1 to me. But put me neutral on this too. I'll wait more inputs about this
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"Deep" in what sense? Is he really talking about its nothingness here or something else?
What we call cause and effect are within causal systems. And in the description of Type 5, "All causes and effects" means causes and effects within the whole causal systems. And you have to prove that the character is independent of the causes and effects of not just one or two different causal systems, but of any that possibly exist. Otherwise it's no different from Type 4.
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Dear, I said prove that it is the same time.Being between existence and non-existence is not the same as being completely lack of existence and non-existence. That's what I meant dear.
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I don't need to prove this, the OP has to prove that being between existence and non-existence is completely lack of existence and non-existence. Otherwise it cannot be Type 2.
Because being between the states of existence and non-existence is not the same as being completely lack of the states of existence and non-existence. Kapish dear?
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I would imagine the essence of one's existence counts as a fundamental aspect of one's existence.
Fair enough.
The Void in this context is referring to the Void Realm, which you are Neutral on being Type 2 atm.
Causality in the verse exists as a part of time, if you transcend time, you transcend causality. Mind you in this context, he wasn't transcending the time and space of a single universe, but of all universes, parallel worlds, spatial dimensions, etc.
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Georredannea15
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I mean, he's between existence and non-existence, but that doesn't mean he's completely lack of existence and non-existence. Because only in between.
Hmmm... It's maybe. But I still have doubts that it could be Types 1 and 3.
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Semantics moment.
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You can count me as neutral as I said. I do not want to derail the topic by prolonging the CRT so that it is easy to read
I know he means the Void Realm there, I'm just not sure if by "deep" he really means deep in the sense of "nothingness" or deep in some other sense. But yeah, count me as neutral on this too.
That's still not enough for Type 5. You have to prove that "causality" as part of time encompasses all causal systems that can possibly exist. Otherwise it would be NLF to claim this. Being independent of multiple, even hundreds or thousands of causal systems is not enough for Type 5. That would be higher degree of Type 4
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I give up, I'll just wait for staff.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
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The part about the novel being translated is mind-blowing. Congrats.
I am not super knowledgeable on High 1-A but 1-A seems solid. 2-A is confusing. The idea of cultivators becoming worlds or containing worlds within them isn't new to me, nor are the descriptions between cultivations stages, but I should probably read that chapter to get a good enough reference of what it is scaling off of. Also Infinite speed is missing an additional scan of infinite distance for the gap.
Anyways, let us move on to P&A. Abstract Existence Type 2 is a reformatted version of immortality type 8 and the scans don't indicate that unless you read their immortality type 8 lol (Golden Core). NEP Type 2 is lacking both nonexistence and existence but in a weird way, it is still nonexistence lacking nonexistence and existence. It needs more context than simply being deeper than the void. Also what is the context behind NEP (Aspect 5)?.
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I am not super knowledgeable on High 1-A but 1-A seems solid. 2-A is confusing. The idea of cultivators becoming worlds or containing worlds within them isn't new to me, nor are the descriptions between cultivations stages, but I should probably read that chapter to get a good enough reference of what it is scaling off of. Also Infinite speed is missing an additional scan of infinite distance for the gap.
Anyways, let us move on to P&A. Abstract Existence Type 2 is a reformatted version of immortality type 8 and the scans don't indicate that unless you read their immortality type 8 lol (Golden Core). NEP Type 2 is lacking both nonexistence and existence but in a weird way, it is still nonexistence lacking nonexistence and existence. It needs more context than simply being deeper than the void. Also what is the context behind NEP (Aspect 5)?.
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Georredannea15
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Yes, that would be more healty. Btw you can count me as neutral for now. But if you say it can still be Type 2... I don't think so, but it wouldn't hurt to try.
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I'm probably going to wait for staff. As it stands, the current examples for ACA 5, don't have what you are stating either.
So either, their wrong, or you are misunderstanding Acauality Type 5.
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That NEP Type 2, is based off of the Gold Core's NEP Type 2.
Their cores are Mind, Body & Soul, plus their Essence of Existence which has been shown to be separate from everything else.
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I'll just quote this and go;I'm probably going to wait for staff. As it stands, the current examples for ACA 5, don't have what you are stating either.
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Time includes all of that already, whether it is parallel worlds, possibilities, timelines, or world lines, every possible universe, he transcended it all. But like I said, I'll wait.
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If it is their essence, wouldn't it fall into 'Conceptual Nonexistence'?
Also I perceive aspect (Type 5) as lacking something, rather than it being nonexistent. Sound like the same thing but the latter requires the appropriate non-physical interaction to manipulate while the former is essentially immunity as there isn't anything to manipulate in the existence and nonexistence scale of things.
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No, Spiritual Energy is conceptual which is a part of their will, the core is shown to be separate from that.
I mean...
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Please don't bring politics into this.oh no
this site is being taken over by pooh
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Anyway, while I wait for the staff, I'll be reading the second novel, peace.
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I agree with the OP, it seems pretty solid except it might need a bit more deeper interpretations because people are goddamn lazy after all
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I see. Then I am neutral then.
If you read aspect 5, there is a distinction made between lacking something and it being nonexistent:
- These characters lack some other fundamental aspect that would be necessary for a normal being's existence or have a nonexistent one
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The most neutral's I've ever gotten on a CRT ngl.
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weebshit really do be having an abundance of tierstuff, huh?
neutral for now, btw
neutral for now, btw
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Rise, my fellow Daoist!
A great profile has been created.
Glory to the Chinamen.
I agree, of course, being the one who evaluated this profile first.
A great profile has been created.
Glory to the Chinamen.
I agree, of course, being the one who evaluated this profile first.
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Real. I am going to ignore him
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I'm still not quite understand on the first key resistances (At the same time the blood and vitality of humans naturally rejects other powers which gives them resistance to nearly every power demonstrated in the verse)
does that mean he resist his own and others powers?
does that mean he resist his own and others powers?
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