Yhwach vs The Operator

[Hl3_or_bust]

you do realize that Yhwach resists soul hax? And that said resistance is scaled through AP from tier 7s?

I highly doubt that The Operator's soul hax is taht good

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

No he can't sense him nor see him unless he's spiritually aware. You countered nothing because I read it and just didn't comment. He absorbed his dad who's stronger then him, drained Ichigo instantly, and can spread his darkness hundreds to thousands of km.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Not only can I argue it to be far above what yhwach can take but my point was given how he can interact with souls and nekros can literally see someone's soul being punched out it is fair to assume he can see yhwach and very clearly.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Show me that the souls are invisible, because if not it doesn't matter because souls aren't assumed to be invisible nor does he have extra sensory perception as far as I can tell from this profile.

> far above what Yhwach can take ???

As a matter of fact what is even the difference here from the last Yhwach vs Warframe thread? They all just get crushed like in the limbo thread.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

can Nekros/The Operator actually see souls to begin with?

being able to hit souls =/= being able to see souls

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

A billion time multiplier?

What in the world, do you realize that even when stacking all damage mods, elemental mods for weapons and Power Strength mods for Frames while utilizing Damage Buffing abilities from Warframes it doesn't reach such numbers?

Back before the 64 bit integer updates the only way I could reach the 32 bit integer max damage number I had literally spam a max Power Strength Banshee Sonar a dozen times on an enemy's head to reach 2 billion damage.

It's literally not possible unless you exploit game mechanics.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

As a matter of fact what is even the difference here from the last Yhwach vs Warframe thread? They all just get crushed like in the limbo thread.

Many warframes are intangible, so crush won't help.

The Operator can still mind hax, so what happens to the warframes is not a factor.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

idk who told you being intangible stops you from being crushed, as far as i'm concerned everyone here gets consumed instantly and crushed.

Not while Almighty active.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yes it does. Being intangible means they cannot be hit physically. Lacking soul means they cannot be hit spiritually. You gotta show me when reiatsu has crushed someone who lacks a soul and is intangible or in another dimension entirely (limbo). Some warframes may get crushed, but not all of them.

Yes. Almighty won't help against mind hax from the other side of the solar system. He won't be seeing it used because he is not there, and he to my knowledge is unable to realize that in the future he will be mind haxed as he sees what his opponents will do, not what happens to himself. And also almighty does not null powers which are based on energy. Ichigo has been able to use getsuga tenshou on him. So almighty won't affect the operator.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Yhwach can definitely crush from other dimensions. His reiatsu went through hueco mundo the human world and soul society.

There isn't really a range limit to almighty. It doesnt have to be something he can see with his two eyes because he sees every possibility of any action.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Im pretty sure they are not literal other universes so false equivalency. Also...not on his profile.

About that:

1. Not true. Yhwach cannot affect futures he's not part of as he literally tells ichigo "The only reason you were able to change your fate is because i was not part of that". So yes he has to be in those fates.

2. No range limit is NLF af. Abilities aren't assumed to have universal range by default.

3. He still cannot do anything to the operator cus he doesn't even know he exists, let alone affect him.

So the operator mindhaxes.

 

[Paul_Frank]

You need dimensional travel to reach them so they kinda are

Because Tsukushima changed the past to make Yhwach not have broken the sword and then Orihime reversed causality to fix it.

Timestop

Info analysis, and knowledge of every possible outcome to every possible action in every timeline of which there are infinite doesn't allow him to know about the operator why exactly?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

1) Yhwach knows The Operator exists.

2) Yhwach will be immune to mindhax.

3) The Operator does not fight with mindhax.

4) The Operator does not generally fight at all, you're wanking his behavior.

5) The Operator doesn't have mindhax unless channeling through a Warframe that has such abilities like Nyx, even then Yhwach is immune still.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Because, he has to look for something that doesn't move much.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

1. No, why would he?

2. No, he doesn't gain immunity to energy based hax. Reiatsu attacks still work, there is no reason he will neg void energy.

3. He doesn't it's still something he can use.

4. Hmm void avatars do, the operator fights through that. Also not wanking mind you, im not saying it'll be the first move, it will still be an applicable win condition though.

5. He does by transferring the void avatar like he did to umbra.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Why would Yhwach not know who he is fighting?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Why would Yhwach not know who he is fighting?

Because he's fighting the warframes, not the operator. Like saying why wouldn't yhwach know about khorne when fighting kharn, or x character not knowing about the true self of x avatar.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Thats a false equivalency. Khorne isn't controlling/piloting Kharn for the fight. You are basically arguing that someone fighting Kankuro/Sasori wouldn't know who they are and only have knowledge of what puppet is being used.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

If sasori were to live on the other side of the solar system yes that would be the case. The puppet sword from Katanagatari wouldn't mean they all have knowledge on who the weilder is. Somone who fights Gyro Gyro will know about psykos etc.

 

[Rocker1189]

I mean Sasori and Kankuro can hide it does not change the point, I agee with anonymous. Why is the operator getting special circumstances where the fighter does not know who they are fighting?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Because he's fighting the warframes, not the operator. Like saying why wouldn't yhwach know about khorne when fighting kharn, or x character not knowing about the true self of x avatar.

He would though thats how info analysis works

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I mean Sasori and Kankuro can hide it does not change the point, I agee with anonymous. Why is the operator getting special circumstances where the fighter does not know who they are fighting?

Because they are not fighting the operator dude.They are fighting the warframe. As i said Psykos (One-Punch Man). If you put Gyro against someone, they won't know about her true form. Same thing here. If you put the warframes against someone, they won't know about the true form (operator). It's not a "special circumstance" there are other cases like this. Like the one i mentioned above.

 

[Rocker1189]

But it says yhwach vs the operator.

And it does not matter whether they know her true form or not, since she is still the person in the battle.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

But it says yhwach vs the operator.
And it does not matter whether they know her true form or not, since she is still the person in the battle.

Yes because that's the profile. Similarly it would say "Yhwach vs Psykos", when it could actually be Gyro Gyro fighting yhwach and not Psykos. Same profle doesn't mean same person in every key.