Yhwach vs Reinhard Heydritch

[Schnee_One]

Feel free to erase my bloodline.

Speed is Equal, 5B for both, fight takes place in Gladesheimr. Yhwach has Sternitter stuff.

Reinhard Heydrich:

Yhwach:

 

[PsychoWarper]

Um... so what can Yhwach do to put down Reinhard? He will throw LLT after a while and doesnt hold back as much as people say so... what can he do?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Reinhard spears eventually because Yhwach can't put him down

 

[The_Causality]

This thread killed me.

 

[PsychoWarper]

If Yhwach tries to absorb Reinhard if it isn't instant Rein can just let go of LLT and Yhwach instantly dies.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

>fight takes place in Gladesheimr

Doesn't Yhwach just instantly die then?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Reinhard throws his spear

 

[Warren_Valion]

If Yhwach tries to absorb Reinhard if it isn't instant Rein can just let go of LLT and Yhwach instantly dies.

Yhwach was able to absorb Mimihagi, a creature the size of a skyscraper in seconds, so a person Reinhard's size should be absorbed nearly instantly.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Three things:

1. This was done before

2. It's Heydrich, not Heydritch.

And 3. The only thing I can see that Yhwach has that can put Reinhard down is his absorption. That is, unless you would consider Reinhard to have a resistance to absorption because of his superiority over Wilhelm's Briah.

 

[Schnee_One]

So stomp or no?

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Give Yhwach access to his Sternritter powers or just use the Soul-King since he's Yhwach but with way more hax.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yhwach has everything so I didn't think I needed to state he had his Sternritter powers?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

He never uses them anyways....

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Nah that's something you gotta put in the OP or he won't have access to them. Although I think the Soul King could fight against Rein better than Yhwach can.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

He never uses them anyways....

This argument? Really? This has been addressed multiple times, Yhwach didn't use his other powers against Ichigo and Aizen because he was hax stomping them with the Almighty alone. He's also used other abilities such as The Voice against Ichibei.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

K

 

[Rocker1189]

This argument? Really? This has been addressed multiple times, Yhwach didn't use his other powers against Ichigo and Aizen because he was hax stomping them with the Almighty alone. He's also used other abilities such as The Voice against Ichibei.

I dont remember any ability called The Voice.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

When you speak Ichibe's name without permission you lose your voice.

Yhwach granted himself The Voice, thus giving him speech.

 

[Rocker1189]

When you speak Ichibe's name without permission you lose your voice.
Yhwach granted himself The Voice, thus giving him speech.

err, no ichibei crushed his throat iirc.

I dont see where yhwach granted himself the voice is this in the novel or something?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

@Warren

How does that works cuz Rein doesn't need anything of that to come back (mid godly and all) so he just regens and slaps him until the spear comes out

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Ichibe didn't crush histhroat,he explained it pretty clearly.

Yhwach gives himself a Voice.

 

[Rocker1189]

The first bit it still too ambiguous since he slammed him with an attack.

He gives himself a voice yes, but I dont see how that related in anyway to the sternritter abilities. Not to mentione that before he did that he did something to his throat physically as if something was stuck in it.

 

[B023]

Why you guys hate Yhwach?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

1. How is this ambiguous? he gives Yhwach multiple warnings not to say his name or he'd lose his voice. His name is cursed.

2.He channeled Reishi into his throat in order to grant himself The Voice, also you forget Yhwach himself is pretty much 100% disabled. everything he can do is an ability he inherited from someone else.

 

[Rocker1189]

1. because he is capable of saying his name without his voice being lost immediately?

2. again how does that mean that he would use sternritter abilities when he never used anything but the almighty spam.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

1. I'm not sure what you're arguing here. Yhwach lost his voice because he repeatedly said Ichibe's name without permission.

2.Who said anything about using sternritter powers...? He has the power to give himself/ restore his power. He granted himself The' Voice' thus giving himself the power of speech once again.

 

[Rocker1189]

This whole arguement stemmed because the prince of counters used that to somehow prove that he would use starnritter powers in character which I am saying he wont and never has.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Oh, well the OP gave him it which allows him to use it. since his schrift key is OOC.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Ok ignoring weather hed use it or not what could he do to Rein with it? Mind and Soul hax are out same with BFR and some kinds of sealing so whats he got?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Apparently only absortion which is kinda hard countered by the fact he doesn't need anything inside Glads

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

In the words of Warren himself.


The reason I was going to make this fight is that I thought that OOC Yhwach might have a chance against IWKBey Reinhard.

Yhwach's Precognition + Power Null/Reactive Evolution + Fate Manipulation is really good - could negate Reinhard's mindhax and all of his 3-D hax for instance.

And I think he could probably absorb Reinhard as an incap, and with The Balance - luck would always be in his favor.

All damage would make Yhwach stronger and larger with The Miracle. The Visionary could make virtually anything Yhwach thinks of becomes reality. He could possibly make any substance poisonous to Reinhard via Deathdealing.

Yhwach can summon Yamamoto's army of (I think) Trillions to counteract Reinhard's army of (I think millions or billions) with Yamamoto's Bankai. Reinhard's army is likely stronger, while Yhwach's is more numerous.

And with Reinhard wanting to have a good fight - he could possibly lose to Yhwach.


Anyway, I think it is a lot closer than most people would want to give credit for - Yhwach is rather overpowered. I also think there are a lot of similarities in their concepts and character.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Why do all Reinhard matches rely on him doing absolutely nothing?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Almost all of that is negged by the fact that he has Mid Godly with only maybe the fate manip being useful for as long as he keeps Reinhard in a good mood (which still leads to getting LLT'ed).

And even then that post was with a what? bloodlusted yhwach?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Why do all Reinhard matches rely on him doing absolutely nothing?

Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing 2.0

 

[PsychoWarper]

Why do all Reinhard matches rely on him doing absolutely nothing?

Because if he does anything he stomps hard.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Also, the irrelevant speed justification for LLT looks really bad. I know we discussed it and it made sense but it's phrased as if it were merely Infinite.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Reinhard in a nutshell :v

Also, doesn't Rein neggs regen up to low godly cuz of "the poison of the holy relics" or something?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Also, the irrelevant speed justification for LLT looks really bad. I know we discussed it and it made sense but it's phrased as if it were merely Infinite.

Thats cause when the speed rating was changed the justification wasnt and I cant edit profiles as im on my phone so I cant request to have it opened to fix it atm.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

oh boi. Though tony is right that rein being in good mood will make him launch LLT. And rein should do that as well...doe LLT does the better job

 

[Schnee_One]

You tell me to desist and I respond with my stand "Begonicus Thoticus"