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Can base Yhwach do anything against sealing?
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Yhwach VS Misogi Kumagawa
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Oh, the OP changed the version again, my bad
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He was talking to YungManzi, since, he said that the argument that made Low 2-C yhwach win against Misogi was powernull
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How does the sealing work?
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And Fate manipulation too, Misogi can't do Jack shit about Allmighty
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Well, soul crush being restricted stops that first of all
Second, All Fiction isn't passive, whereas soul crush is, he'd die before he's able to.
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The fact that he would passively die due it and not being able to ressurect?
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Well, I was referring to lower tiered Yhwach in that instance. Because OP asked if that would be more fair.
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He puts a screw on the target and their powers and AP get sealed
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Dude, that's exactly what I was thinking from the beginning tbh.
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Inmortality/All fiction GG
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It doesnt counter soul hax
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Guys, soul crush is restricted
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Well, as this is Base Yhwach and his soul hax is restricted, he has very few chances to win, but he still can win if he land a single hit attack in misogi
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We could say that knowing Ywach's ability, he could do something to prevent being Soul crushed, like eliminating the very concept of his soul, and then All fiction SC
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Is that something he's ever actually done?
And All Fiction has no feats of resurrecting after soul destruction, so he'd die before he's able to do that.
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Soul Crush is restricted, but if it wasnt, no, he couldn't do it against Soul Crush, as it is passive and Yhwach literally resist causality manipulation and conceptual manipulation, which means All Fiction would not work, but since, now its Base Yhwach with soul crush restricted
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That would
A) Be possible if he could regen from Soul destruction
B) know that's what is happening in the first place
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Why?
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So it's restricted now?
I mean, while he's being SC why can't he just say "This is fiction"
Sure, SC is passive, but it's not instant EE or whatever.
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4D isn't needed, you can also just resist soul manipulation that scales to the trillions
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It is for Yhwach, he scales above Aizen in Reiatsu who basically erased a dude the second he came into range, keep in mind, Aizen's Reiatsu is sealed to be close to his body in this instance, take away the seal and that guys dead from much further away.
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Passive = Instant Effect, the characters literally have their soul erased/destroyed just by being in their presences, Misogi is not ''faster than infinite'' to be able to counter it, and even then, that Yhwach version have resistance to all stuff from All Fiction, causality and conceptual manipulation included
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Very, very few characters are able to, actually.
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It isn't instant when the character can still resist Soul crush of some scale.
It is both instant and destroys normal people if that isn't the case.
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That guy who Aizen vaporised was also much more resistant to soul crush, so that's even worse for Kumagawa actually...
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Exactly
The guy Aizen was erasing was a Shinigami, and even fodder Shinigami have pretty high soul resistance.
If RC isn't restricted, Misogi dies the instant the match starts.
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But they were way closer than Yhwach is to Misogi. And since AF is thought-based his soul would have to be crushed faster than he can can think a thought, which I personally would want to see evidence for.
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Pretty sure if you have any base form of soul resist you don't passively die unless you get close to the them, but you likely get paralysis and fear haxed.
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Did you just selectively ignore the last part of my post?
Aizen's Reiatsu was sealed to be near his body in that instance, take away the seal, and that guy dies before he's even in visual distance.
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Misogi can't do anything against Soul Crush (stomp), and the matchup can't be added with power restriction, so it wouldn't be added btw.
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I don't think it matters.
Y'know what... Why am I even arguing this? I don't even like Medaka Box.
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In fact, a sincere doubt. Has All-Fiction been shown to affect 4-D?
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