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Yhwach Vs Medaka

I dont have the calculations but I remember in all the previous threads via Yhwach vs Medaka, she always had AP advantage and that played alot against The Almighty. I remmeber there was a thread that was accepted discussing The Almighty weakness about if a certain oppenent has adavantage in a certain status or more status The Almighty wouldnt be able to pick a future where Yhwach wins.
 
The argument was that, if there is no future where Yhwach wins he can't pick a future where he wins.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
It's the strongest sure, can it null them, yes arguably. Will it null them? No because he won't even realize the power is being used. His info analysis is specific for things he sees. Also unknown hero says hi to meeding to see. Almighty will be negged by unknown hero.
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No it isn't, anything that is in his line of vision will become known to him and when it is known to him, the power takes his side. The power not being visible doesn't matter.

Unless Medaka can alter Yhwach's perception before he activated The Almighty like Aizen did, he will be able to see her powers. Them being passive is irrelvant.
 
I don't know where u got AP means something here, she's city-block durability as well so she indeed gets crushed and lacks resistance to soul manipulation. Yhwach negs Regenerationn as well, and unless she can ressurect without a soul that's useless as well.
 
No it isn't, anything that is in his line of vision will become known to him and when it is known to him, the power takes his side. The power not being visible doesn't matter.

Unless Medaka can alter Yhwach's perception before he activated The Almighty like Aizen did, he will be able to see her powers. Them being passive is irrelvant.

Well unknown hero means he will not see medaka or remember her. Present it future doesn't matter. Rendering the seeing useless.
 
>5-C ap

>Iihiko's ap scales from her 5-C ap

>Neither have 5-C durability

Nani someone fix this
 
She only has 8-B durability though and no soul resistance.

She busted the moon and came out fine. Idk how that doesn't scale to dura.
 
yeah the Vanishing Point is exactly like Unknown Hero and it's the product of The Visionary wich Yhwach have so he doesn't even need Almighty to counter it
 
Firephoenixearl said:
She busted the moon and came out fine. Idk how that doesn't scale to dura.
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Busting a moon has nothing to do with durability unless she was thrown into the moon - and even then, I don't think being thrown into the moon makes you have 5-C level durability.

Also, again, she has no soul resistence.

Reiatsu crush should work just fine.
 
If she busted the moon and got 5-C AP from it, the only way for her not to kill herself when she hits stuff is if her durabilty scales
 
We don't know what she did to destroy the moon though, could have been a skill we didn't see earlier (Or All Fiction . . .)
 
Paul Frank said:
If she busted the moon and got 5-C AP from it, the only way for her not to kill herself when she hits stuff is if her durabilty scales
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By that logic, Glass Canons wouldn't be a thing.

There are plenty of characters that have a higher AP than their durability and survive just fine.
 
I found the Weakness thread.

If yall want you can read the entire thing, but to summarize it in quotes from @ProfessorKukui4Life and @LordAizenSama.

"If Ywhach is being matched, slightly overwhelemed, or is just out-right outclassed by an opponent, thus taking away ALL POSSIBLILITY of turning things in his favor, then there wouldnt be any EXISTING possible futures where he can gain the upper hand or even beat his opponent. And, as a result, he wouldnt be able to use the Almighty to his advantage and have it work on his opponent.

In another counter against Almighty is designed in the input of Omni-Precognition: Yhwach can see everything that is to occur from the present moment into the far-flung future. He can "know" everything that lies within that gaze. Rather than seeing a linear future, Yhwach observes all possible futuresat once like countless grains of sand in the wind, and can thus act accordingly using the knowledge he has gained to anticipate and counter his opponents. However, Yhwach is unable to predict the actions of Mimihagi, the right hand of the Soul King.

@ProfessorKukui4Life point out with Almighty usage of Omni-Precognition specifically states that Yhwach observes, and ONLY observes all possible futures. "Yhwach is in a fight and there is next to or literally no possible way of Yhwach winning, then the Almighty wouldn't even have a future to observe as it can only observe ones that are possible to happen but since it would be impossible for Yhwach to harm, beat or win against his opponent, there would be no futures where he can possibly win so would the Almighty even be viewing anything at all in a situation like this."
 
Outdated information and was rejected via a quick glance. "omni-precog" lul.

But here is his actual weakness though.

Weaknesses: Blut Vene and Blut Arterie use two different reishi systems, so they cannot be used at the same time. Yhwach is quite arrogant, and the Almighty cannot dispel illusions that were placed on him before he activated the Almighty. If he is incapable of maintaining his absorption of souls, he will return to the immobile state he was born into. He will briefly lose his powers if exposed to the Still Silver created in the hearts of his Auswählen victims.
 
InfiniteSped said:
We don't know what she did to destroy the moon though, could have been a skill we didn't see earlier (Or All Fiction . . .)
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Iirc we see the moon actually break so it wasn't all fiction

@warren the difference here is glass canons don't tank hits from people with similar ap or have that kind of ap with physical blows since you need to have equal ap and durability to not hurt yourself when you punch something
 
InfiniteSped said:
@Paul: From what I remember, the moon just vanishes. We don't actually see what happens
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yep , a time skip happend with the narrator stating " and from this day , the moon disseapeared from the sky and medaka never reapeared"
 
Paul Frank said:
@warren the difference here is glass canons don't tank hits from people with similar ap or have that kind of ap with physical blows since you need to have equal ap and durability to not hurt yourself when you punch something
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My point was that this is fiction, and a character using AP to break something doesn't mean it scales to their durability because of Newton's Laws.

There are plenty of characters who can punch harder than they can take.
 
Warren Valion said:
Paul Frank said:
@warren the difference here is glass canons don't tank hits from people with similar ap or have that kind of ap with physical blows since you need to have equal ap and durability to not hurt yourself when you punch something
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My point was that this is fiction, and a character using AP to break something doesn't mean it scales to their durability because of Newton's Laws.
There are plenty of characters who can punch harder than they can take.
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Assuming there are not amp or have some reality warping effect, character using AP to break something doesn't mean it scales to their durability because of Newton's Laws.

But if the AP feats are also Striking Strenght feats, then AP and durabilities scaled because of Newton's Third Law which I used to upgrade characters before in accepted CRT.
 
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