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Yhwach vs Kars

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The only way Ywach doesn't get memmed IF he has Conceptual powernull, which Kars has...Uh...Conceptual understanding, so he copies all mighty, and then gangs Ywach with 67 centillion different version of himself
 
So uh. Kars may have Soul hax resistance, but he isn't surviving Reiatsu Crush's AP factor at all. That 8-C dirability is still kicking his ass no matter what he does. Kars' only chance is BFR, but it's not likely he would be able to pull it off since Yhwach is doing this shit passively.

Oh, and also Yhwach has CM2.

Voting evil Jesus
 
I forgot, Yhwach can also steal abilites even down to a conceptual level, so he's gonna look into the future and see his stand and go "You mean, my stand?"

assuming Kars doesn't just f**cking die
 
Arcker123 said:
It's more fitting to the characters. Genius masterminds who constantly evolve to become a perfect being.
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Aizen's evolution >
He always evolved waycbeyond what he has shown previously.

He has gone from mid level regeneration to mid godly (I don't see his soul and mind reconstruction being added as regeneration).

Reached reio candidates level from captain level during a battle.

Actually damaged someone who was way above him by his own admission ( dangai ichigo)
 
Adam1396 said:
Aizen's evolution >
He always evolved waycbeyond what he has shown previously.

He has gone from mid level regeneration to mid godly (I don't see his soul and mind reconstruction being added as regeneration).

Actually damaged someone who was way above him by his own admission ( dangai ichigo)
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Not to mention kept up with him after he blitzed him
 
Jo-Smooth said:
What are Kars’ win cons? How likely are they compared to Yhwach’s?
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Kars has BFR and Universe Reset, from what I see from his profile. However, Yhwach's is literally just standing there since Reiatsu crush is gonna annihilate him with a passive 3-C force vs Kars' 8-C durability. Also anything Kars does gets powernulled and precog'd with The Almighty.

Kars might have wincons (it's more likely, just that his profile is a mess) but Yhwach has passives and other funny stuff that answers most of them.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Kars has BFR and Universe Reset, from what I see from his profile. However, Yhwach's is literally just standing there since Reiatsu crush is gonna annihilate him with a passive 3-C force vs Kars' 8-C durability. Also anything Kars does gets powernulled and precog'd with The Almighty.
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1. Kars has 6-B dura (won't matter much)
2. If kars dies he gets replaced by another kars, that is an infinite multiverse distance away
3. Kars has Conceptual 4-D understanding
4. Kars should be able to copy fate shenanigans, due to him stating that he has every power of every being on earth, that should include rolling stones
5. Benis :D :D :D
 
Livinmeme said:
1. Kars has 6-B dura (won't matter much)
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Only says 8-C on the profile without Whitesnake. Also doesn't matter since well.... you know.
Livinmeme said:
2. If kars dies he gets replaced by another kars, that is an infinite multiverse distance away
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All of them still get fodderized. Put 5 trillion puppies against Frieza and they still wouldn't have a chance. Same case here.
Livinmeme said:
3. Kars has Conceptual 4-D understanding
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No conceptual hax on the profile. Plus Yhwach has CM2 and can absorb concepts as well such as when he stole Ichibei's ink. Plus the only 4-D hax he knows is MIHRU, which needs setup.
Livinmeme said:
4. Kars should be able to copy fate shenanigans, due to him stating that he has every power of every being on earth, that should include rolling stones
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Cool, Yhwach will do the same thing, or just power null it since he'll see that shit from 30 nautical miles away.
Livinmeme said:
5. Benis :D :D :D
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Yhwach summons a pair of scissors ggs
 
All of them still get fodderized. Put 5 trillion puppies against Frieza and they still wouldn't have a chance. Same case here.
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He doesn't have the range

No conceptual hax on the profile. Plus Yhwach has CM2 and can absorb concepts as well such as when he stole Ichibei's ink. Plus the only 4-D hax he knows is MIHRU, which needs setup.
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Can view an ability and/or concept and "understand it" while also being able to use it at mastery levels of skill if not greater than the source of said concept
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And his Understanding is 4-D, which Ywach has no answer to that
ReaperAndBlues said:
Cool, Yhwach will do the same thing, or just power null it since he'll see that shit from 30 nautical miles away.
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Only one of them has it to 4-D levels, and only one of them makes the ability on steroids after being understood
 
Livinmeme said:
He doesn't have the range
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The second the dare to step into the battlefield, they will die.
Livinmeme said:
And his Understanding is 4-D, which Ywach has no answer to that
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Just kill him lol. After all, he does it passively. And the type of immortalities Yhwach negs in particular covers all of Kars' (well except type 6 but that one's kinda doo doo anyway). Also, it's not on the profile aside from descriptions.
Livinmeme said:
Only one of them has it to 4-D levels, and only one of them makes the ability on steroids after being understood
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None of the worthwhile 4-D hax that can put down Yhwach without taking 50 million years like MIHRU can kill him before he nulls it. Everything else Yhwach just uses himself or powernulls it. This is also assuming Yhwach wouldn't just find a Kars without a stand out of the infinite futures he can look into to bully. If Kars copies the Almighty, Yhwach re-copies it, besides, that's assuming he'd be able to comprehend it before turning into dust.

Adaptation also isn't saving his ass because Yhwach fought Mahoraga on crack and was clapping him. Mind you, Aizen went from getting blitzed and beaten to a pulp to beating Ichigo's ass in one evolution, and Yhwach fought this Aizen, but stronger.

Anyways, Imma get some sleep.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
,The second the dare to step into the battlefield, they will die.
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Nop. 4-D understanding
Just kill him lol. After all, he does it passively. And the type of immortalities Yhwach negs in particular covers all of Kars' (well except type 6 but that one's kinda doo doo anyway). Also, it's not on the profile aside from descriptions.
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If he dies. Then another Kars take his place, with resistance to all migthy, repeat it until Ywach runs out of tricks
ReaperAndBlues said:
None of the worthwhile 4-D hax that can put down Yhwach without taking 50 million years like MIHRU can kill him before he nulls it. Everything else Yhwach just uses himself or powernulls it. This is also assuming Yhwach wouldn't just find a Kars without a stand out of the infinite futures he can look into to bully. If Kars copies the Almighty, Yhwach re-copies it, besides, that's assuming he'd be able to comprehend it before turning into dust.

Adaptation also isn't saving his ass because Yhwach fought Mahoraga on crack and was clapping him. Mind you, Aizen went from getting blitzed and beaten to a pulp to beating Ichigo's ass in one evolution, and Yhwach fought this Aizen, but stronger.
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They don't have any HD abilities, and I don't think I have to remind you the absurd difference between 3-D and 4-D
 
Livinmeme said:
1. Kars has 6-B dura (won't matter much)
2. If kars dies he gets replaced by another kars, that is an infinite multiverse distance away
3. Kars has Conceptual 4-D understanding
4. Kars should be able to copy fate shenanigans, due to him stating that he has every power of every being on earth, that should include rolling stones
5. Benis :D :D :D
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Since he is talking off profile let me answer with off profile @ReaperAndBlues
2. Doesn't matter. Yhwach has multiversal+ range physically as he can cover entire garganta which is bare minimum infinite 4D space. He has the range via almighty too. Yhwach can induce permanent effect, so no replacement happening. These are just three ways among other ways

3. Yhwach has high end 4D understanding including concept type 2.

4. Senjumaru's level fate manipulation not almighty not that it would help.

Yhwach has 4D acasuality type 4, CM, power etc resistance. So kars hax are useless. I'm gonna comment some wincons of yhwach below
 
Adam1396 said:
Doesn't matter. Yhwach has multiversal+ range physically as he can cover entire garganta which is bare minimum infinite 4D space. He has the range via almighty too. Yhwach can induce permanent effect, so no replacement happening. These are just three ways among other ways
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Not accepted
Adam1396 said:
Yhwach has high end 4D understanding including concept type 2.
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Lol no, he doesn't even have 4-D range in his profile
inb4. ACshually he does
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Point it out then
Adam1396 said:
Yhwach has 4D acasuality type 4, CM, power etc resistance. So kars hax are useless. I'm gonna comment some wincons of yhwach below
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Those were rejected like 2 year ago dude, Ywach having smurf hax isn't a thing anymore
 
Kars dies once

Kars in another universe uses D4C ultimate and another yhwach comes to "fight Yhwach"

Both die, no way Yhwach can survive a transmutation based on a "fact of the world"

Yhwach does not have 4D range and the donwplay of Kars here is inmense, also, this fight was made in the past and is inconclusive, Kars is absurd to kill and Yhwach lacks range to do it
 
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