Yhwach vs Dante: (Yhwach stomped so hard that he downgraded the DMCverse)

[Warren_Valion]

Base Yhwach is underappreciated, so why not use him?

This is Base Yhwach without Almighty or the Sternritter abilities and this is the Animated Series Dante.

Speed is unequalized unless the difference is too great.

Yhwach: 0

Dante: 4 (Theglassman12, RebubleUselet, Schnee One, Paul Frank) via Time Slow/Stop and AP advantage

Inconclusive: 0


Discuss, Ningen!

 

[HST_Master]

I'd dare say Dante via Bangle of Time/Quicksilver GG.

 

[Warren_Valion]

I'd dare say Dante via Bangle of Time/Quicksilver GG.

What is that, and what does it do?

 

[Schnee_One]

They're time slow and stop

Anyway, what does Base Yhwach have?

 

[HST_Master]

Time Stop and Time Slow respectively.

EDIT: Ninja'd

 

[Warren_Valion]

They're time slow and stop
Anyway, what does Base Yhwach have?

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Master Swordsman and Marksma, Pseudo-flight, Spiritual Awareness(Can see invisible spirits and objects), Extrasensory Perception (Can sense beings with Reiatsu), Longevity, Can take his reiryoku and exert it as reiatsu, Reishi Manipulation (Can forcibly manipulate the particles that make up spiritual beings and objects such as those in Soul Society. After absorbing the Soul King, Yhwach can manipulate all the Reishi in the Soul King Palace so that only Quincies can use it to create stepping platforms in midair, nullified the Shinigami Pseudo-Flight), Limited Blood Manipulation (Using Blut, Yhwach can flood his blood vessels with energy to reinforce them and can consume living beings to fuel Blut Vene Anhaben), Statistics Amplification (Can enhance his speed with Hirenkyaku and increase his defensive or offensive with Blut), Portal Creation, Dimensional Travel (With Shadow), Forcefield Creation, Weapon Creation, Light Manipulation, Fire Manipulation (He has Yamamoto's Bankai, which can burn at extremely high temperatures, raise those he's killed from the dead, and wipe opponents from existence), Life Manipulation (Of Quincies - can redistribute the life force of Quincies to other Quincies), Telekinesis, Corrosion Inducement, Power Absorption, Resurrection (Can resurrect Quincies by redistributing power to them with Auswählen), Regenerationn (Low-Mid; Can regenerate from having his neck and mouth destroyed and shooting a hole through his own chest), Immortality (Type 3), Probability Manipulation and Durability Negation with The Balance, Soul Manipulation (All Quincies can destroy souls, and Yhwach can split his own soul between others to heal all their wounds and grant them powers), Reactive Power Level (By sharing portions of his soul to others on contact or when they make contact with Quincy, Yhwach can gain their strength by absorbing their souls when they die on the battlefield), Limited Matter Manipulation (Using Sklaverei, Yhwach can tear apart spiritual objects and beings by drawing upon their Reishi, absorbing beings destroyed in this way), Invisibility, Non-Physical Interaction (Can harm and interact with intangible spirits and objects), Overwhelming Aura (Spiritual pressure can passively induce ailments ranging from paralysis to disintegration), Resistance to Power Nullification (Yhwach regained his ability to speak after it was negated and even half of his power after it was halved by Ichibē. After he regains The Almighty, Yhwach completely nullified the effect of Ichimonji that stripped him of his name and power and reduced his physical capability to a black ant), Soul Manipulation and Paralysis Inducement (Ransotengai allows Quincy to freely manipulate their bodies using spirit energy if their bodies would be inflicted with great physical harm or paralysis)


TL;DR: The best offensive stuff he has in his arsenal is Power Absorption, Soul Destruction attacks, and Telekinetic blasts.

 

[MachTwo]

What time this is? if at night he can use the Balance.

 

[Warren_Valion]

What time this is? if at night he can use the Balance.

He gains The Balance when he's asleep - it isn't combat applicable.

 

[MachTwo]

Its out of character for him to uses Zanka no tachi too (Kubo, are you serious?)

 

[Warren_Valion]

How likely is Dante going to use his Time Slow or Stop?

 

[MachTwo]

I'm pretty sure it's only at night, he sleep at night but he can wake up as when Gigi and Liltotto tries to attack him.

 

[Schnee_One]

How likely is Dante going to use his Time Slow or Stop?

Rather likely if his opponent is a huge threat.

 

[HST_Master]

They're time slow and stop

Anyway, what does Base Yhwach have?

He still has Yama's bankai and Sankt Altar power absorption, along with Blut Vene Anhaben that has corrosion inducement.

 

[Warren_Valion]

How likely is Dante going to use his Time Slow or Stop?

Rather likely if his opponent is a huge threat.

Would he consider Yhwach a "huge threat"?

 

[Theglassman12]

@Warren considering Alastor can warn him of Yhwach beforehand, he'll likely take the fight seriously.

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh shit he has Yama's Bankai in this form?

 

[MachTwo]

Its out of character for him to uses Zanka no tachi too (Kubo, are you serious?)

.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Schnee Yhwach doesn't use Yama's bankai in character tho. It's mostly just him sealing the ability.

 

[Warren_Valion]

@Warren considering Alastor can warn him of Yhwach beforehand, he'll likely take the fight seriously.

1. Who the **** is Alastor?

2. Isn't that considered outside help?

3. How would this Alastor know about Yhwach and what he could do?

 

[HST_Master]

Alastor is one of his Devil Arms. The Lightning Sword.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Warren it's one of his swords. It literally alerts Dante about any incoming threat. It warned him when Nelo Angelo or Nero Angelo was in a different dimension waiting to surprise attack.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Yhwach just uses TK.

 

[Theglassman12]

when has he used TK against someone comparable to him?

 

[Warren_Valion]

@Warren it's one of his swords. It literally alerts Dante about any incoming threat. It warned him when Nelo Angelo or Nero Angelo was in a different dimension waiting to surprise attack.

But Yhwach isn't going to surprise attacking him.

Does he read people's abilities or something, or just sense them coming?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

when has he used TK against someone comparable to him?

Ichigo, Ichibe, and blowing up 3 of his soldiers cause they failed him.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Warren it can sense things not even in the same dimension as Dante per say, as Nero Angelo was in a mirror dimension when he was sensed.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yhwach just uses TK.

Doesn't Yhwach scale to 53 Pettatons?

If so, Dante survives

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Yhwach just uses TK.

Doesn't Yhwach scale to 53 Pettatons?
If so, Dante survives

What does TK have to do with AP? you just blow up from within via thought.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Sigurd ok, that's not really gonna put Dante down tho. He has other stuff Yhwach would need to get by, like resisting a good chunk of his abilities and having similar combat experience against other dimensional travelers.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Oh shit he has Yama's Bankai in this form?

Yes, he does.

Although he never used it as his next fight was either stomping Ichigo and then he fought Ichibe until he got nulled and then activated the Almighty.

I was going to make Yhwach use it if he would get stomped to see if it would even the playing field.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Sigurd ok, that's not really gonna put Dante down tho. He has other stuff Yhwach would need to get by, like resisting a good chunk of his abilities and having similar combat experience against other dimensional travelers.

Low-Mid: The ability to regenerate lost limbs, and even from severe organ damage or destruction, including traditionally fatal wounds and disembowelment or horizontal bisection. For machines and vehicles, this would be regenerating minor parts and more extensive internal damage.


This is above Low-Mid.

 

[Warren_Valion]

when has he used TK against someone comparable to him?

Ichibe and Ichigo

 

[Theglassman12]

Ok, and Dante can also just timestop or timeslow him before that could happen. Or even use Doppleganger to overwhelm him.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Ok, and Dante can also just timestop or timeslow him before that could happen. Or even use Doppleganger to overwhelm him.

Unless they're thought based, no.

 

[Theglassman12]

they are.

 

[Warren_Valion]

@Warren it can sense things not even in the same dimension as Dante per say, as Nero Angelo was in a mirror dimension when he was sensed.

So it just senses people?

How will that alert Dante that Yhwach is a big threat?

 

[Theglassman12]

Considering Nero Angelo was a threat to Dante and was gonna kill him at one point, as opposed to the lesser demons, which posed no threat. It will let him know it's a big threat.

 

[MachTwo]

With Zanka no Tachi he only need 1 slash, I doubt Dante will immediately use time stop consider his Devil Arms need to warn him about Yhwach first.

 

[Theglassman12]

when has he used TK against someone comparable to him?

Ichibe and Ichigo

Wasn't the Ichibe one when he used the Almighty?

 

[HST_Master]

Unless they're thought based, no.

Doppleganger Style, Quicksilver, and Bangle of Time all work on thought.