Yang Xiao Long vs Bakugo

[DMUA]

And knocking out or Killing Bakugo probably will be fairly tough.

 

[Jinx666]

@Jinx
Yang definitely does not just reserve her Semblance to critical conditions. Tai made it a direct point in Volume 4 that she abused her Semblance and relied on it too much, and mentioned the whole of Volume 3 as an example.

Yeah, because in every one of those fights, she was in a pinch. She doesnt immediatwly activate it I mean, sheactivates it when shes fairly low in aura. Plus the fact she also needs to stack up the damage, which takes time.

She definitely uses it once Bakugo has chipped her off enough, but at that point, Bakugo will immediately know what her semblance/quirk is about by the power difference, as well as have the sweat from his gauntlets to easily finish her off

The point of Bakugo in the All Might fight. was to show that he can easily take beatings from that of higher AP's, and stillget up andkeep fighting And of course Yang isnt equal to All Might, even when restrained. Hes definitely not getting one shot. And no, All Might was restrained, but heclearly admitted after the fight that he wasnt holding back, as well as Recovery Girl noting that.

That being said, neither takes this without high Difficulty

 

[Kiryu2012]

Bump.

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

before I get into this, both bakugou and yang are rated as having roughly the same stamina overall, meaning it is very difficult to tell who would run out of steam first.

So like I understand that Yang has higher AP than Bakugou's normal explosions and such, but Bakugou's Howitzer Impact let him beat a serious Todoroki, knocking him out in one blow and destroying a large portion of his super massive ice wall And Todoroki could withstand being close to that explosion caused by his quirk clashing with Midoriya's 100% Smash. On that note as well, Bakugou still took hits from someone clearly stronger than Yang (All Might who was restrained and stated to not be holding back during their fight) and was able to get up and continue fighting.

Also, Bakugou is still the smarter of the two in terms of being analytical. Like sure he is a hot head but he is able to at least formulate a strategy and be conservative with his power whereas Yang up to Volume 3 is more about rushing in and relying on her aura to win (As pointed out by her father).

Plus if he is ever feeling pressured, Bakugou can use his Stun Grenade move, which he used against both Tokoyami and All Might, meaning that he could open Yang up for a big attack or a bunch of smaller ones to help wear her down.

Like sure if Yang gets in a few hits, it'll be hard for Bakugou, no doubt about that. And if Yang's semblance goes off, then he'll have an even harder time and could simply straight up lose the match because of it. But given his superior intellect, his history of taking blows from clearly stronger foes, the fact that his Howitzer Impact has a large area of effect and high power, Stun grenade being useful for creating openings, and the fact that Bakugou could keep up against Twice, Toga and Compress all at once (Which would imply that he is capable of handling being on the defensive against people around his speed, which Yang is in this fight due to speed being equalized), I say Bakugou with high difficulty wins.

Reason for high difficulty is simply because Yang is stronger/more durable at base and even more so with her semblance and that Yang likely has slightly more reliable and more damaging long ranged attacks.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

'Bakugou's' normal explosions and such, but Bakugou's Howitzer Impact let him beat a serious Todoroki


that wasnt a serious Todoroki at all

 

[Jinx666]

Bakugo still would have beat flames Todoroki imo.

The heat would make him sweat more, and Bakugo wanted him to do this, which meant he thought up a countermeasure for the flames just like he did with everyone else.

But I think Gimmy won me over, the deciding factor would probably be Bakugos FAR Superior intellect and gameplans on the spot. And because we would know what Bakugo would do with a beat em up character like Yang, in his fight with Kirishima. And just like Yang, she wouldnt even know it was going on.

Changing my Vote to Bakugo fra

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

@Shadowbokunohero

Still knocked him out when the blast made from Deku's 100% Smash/Todoroki's ice and fire couldn't.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yang FRA for now.

 

[Kiryu2012]

Bump.

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

What are the votes so far?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yang is leading

 

[Desmiondo]

Yang fra and higher range

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Yang fra

 

[Jinx666]

What were the reasons for Yang taking the fight again?

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

It's her aura mostly, at least for me it is. Yang's Dura is around the same level as Bakugo's AP, so because of that Yang just has to tank hits long enough to build up power and then return that power back at Bakugo. At that point Yang's AP far exceeds Bakugo's Dura. It's Yang's win.

 

[Jinx666]

Yeah, but so can Bakugo from from his gauntlets. They build up his sweat, to the point that when Yang finally activates her semblance, which is when her aura gets low, he'll immediately know her quirk/semblance and finish her off with the large higher tier explosion he lets out. Hes dealt with higher AP before like with Kirishima and easily countered it, Yang ismt much different except shes a little more ranged, but Bakugo could gameplan circles around her. Plus, hes shown to be able to take one hell of a beating from a higher AP, which I doubt Yang would have higher AP than even restrained All Might who was fairly serious.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Execpt Kirishima soesn't grow power powerful the more Bakugo hits him. And Yang doesn't drop her aura to use her Semblance. Her semblance translates incomming force into her own power. The stronger Bakugo gets, the stronger the eventual rebutal will be.

 

[Jinx666]

Shes similar to Kirishima in the sense shes physical, close range, beat em up type. And they can still both increase their power. Either way, theyre both physically superior to Bakugo, so the point is this big AP advantage isnt going to be the seal for Yang, since Bakugo knows how to handle himself.

Ahe doesnt need to drop it, but she still will only use her semblance once her aura is low, like she always does, and she has to stock up on damage too. Considering the gauntlet blow will be higher than her durability too, it wpuld easily finish her off. Both Yang and Bakugo can easily deliver finishing blows of higher built up calibur, it isnt just Yang and her semblance. And Bakugo would be smart enough to save at least one gauntlet for the finishing blow. What wins it for Bakugo is his much higher experience and intellect, in this basically even battle.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No actually this is pre-timeskip Yang who in character spams it just to win, not because she needs it

If you really want to scale Bakugo to All Might you need to make a CRT, otherwise its not legit

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

It's like Weekly says, Yang will be Semblancing the whole fight. Bakugo will **** her up, and then Yang will one-shot.

 

[Jinx666]

No, Yang doesnt immediately activate her semblance every fight. She'll stock up damage about midway into the fight and then release it once shes low or in a bind. Like she did in the mech fight, Fnki vs Rwby, Fight against Mercury, Her own trailer. She abuses her semblance, only because shes in a bind in every fight. Thats her character, dont see how she can spam it either? Ita a power up that depends on how much power she has absorbed.

This was a restrained AM who stated himself, and by Recovery Girl that Bakugo caught him off guars, and that he wasnt holding back, it was the restraints which were significantly lowering his power, but not lowering his durability. And the gauntlets were the only thing hurting him from Bakugo's arsenal. So its fair to say once hes stored up enough, Yang would just get blown easily, especially while her aura is low. No Crt needed, since im not scaling anything.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What youre describing is post timeskip Yang who only uses her semblance when she needs to, Pre-timeskip yang spams it, something her father specifically critisized her for and then trained out of her

Yeah no, you need to make a CRT if you think he's going to be hitting with a tier 7 attack

 

[Jinx666]

Yang wont be semblancing the whole fight, she cant even use it without taking damage from Bakugo. And he wouldnt gge one shot either, he can take a beating from a higher AP, who you cant say is weaker than Yang. once he realises shes powered up, he'll end it quickly with his gauntlets

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You need to make a CRT and get that approved if you want to agrue that he's going to become tier 7 all of the sudden

 

[Jinx666]

It isnt Tier 7, obviously, you dont even know what im saying.

In the exams, After Bakugo got beat down pretty harshly, and still was able to run and fight just fine, his Bracers stored up enough sweat to shopt an explosion strong enough to STAGGER All Might. And not to mention Deku hurting him with a punch to the face too. All Might was restrained, not using his Tier 7 power, but the fact the explosion hurt him just shows it was significant enough to actually do anything.

I know youre quick to upgrade anyone because they shoved someone at a high tier, but that isnt the case.

Yang will only release her semblance omce shea low and tpok a beating to base it off, she wont spam it, since she cant spam her semblance, its not like Ruby's, and from there, Bakugo will easily feel the power difference, and finish the fight with the power HE gradually built up to.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Yang FRA.

Also, to the point she doesnt spam her semblance

Even Taiyang says this

"Do you realize you used your semblance after every fight after the qualifier"

This isnt even a hard debate.

She has higher AP in both short and long term, she has better combat experience, and she is better with CQC.

She should take this mid diff.

Also, this was a restrained all might who we dont know the limit of his combat capabilities in this context.

We just know he wasnt tier 7 because of the ankle bracelets and even if you dont like that argument.

Chalk it up to PIS, i am skeptical of anywhere higher then where Class 1-A is currently at

 

[Jinx666]

Weekly, you cant spam a semblance like hers. Its one whole thing. Its not like Ruby's, Blakes or Weiss'

Tai criticised her on Relying on it too much, cause that was the only way she ended a fight, but she only activates it when shes low on aura. She doesnt immediately start off with it, mainly cause she cant, she needs to build power.

She'll definitely use it in this fight, but by the time she does, Bakugo can end it just as easily from further away with the power hes stored up

 

[KinkiestSins]

Yeah you can.

If you can argue any one in team RWBY spamming their semblance Jinx, it is probably Yang or Weiss.

Ruby only uses it in a pinch and Blake uses it probably the least.

Also, saying Tai criticized her because she was relying on it too much doesnt debunk the point. The main point is that she can use it in character.

Because in character, she was 'relying' on it too much.

I find it very likely that even if she wont start with it, she will probably use it for a good amount of the fight

Bakugo's explosions are really good AOE but that is practically the only thing he has going for him. Yang just no sells in via CQC if it ever gets close.

She will tank, get close and punch his lights out. Even without her semblance, she still has the AP advantage.

Seems pretty conclusive to me.

 

[Jinx666]

@Kink

Bakugo can easily deal with Higher AP, evident to fighting AM and Kirishima. He also has the better, more consistent chipping with his explowions, better pseudo flight that doesnt rely on limited bullets

She no way has better combat experience. Bakugo is sharper, more precise, more observant and more intelligent than Yang, whose extremely simple as a fighter tbh. Not to mention fighting villains, tougher opponents every single arc.

Whats CQC?

 

[Theglassman12]

close quarters combat

 

[Jinx666]

@Kink Spamming is repeatedly using an ability over and over, she can only actiavte her semblance once in a battle .-.

She doesnt immediately use it either. Blake Weiss and Ruby have semblances that can spam certain move, Yangs is a power up. Yang literally only actiavtes it once shes taken a sufficient beating, unless you want to prove that

She RELIES on her semblance too much, not that she SPAMS it.

Bakugo can easily outlast and exhaust close rangees, like he did with Kirishima, he can even use the stun grenade to blind her, znd he could easily keep his distance from her.

And again, Bakugo has taken beatings from higher APs easily, and can still get up. His endurance would allow him to last several punches, and by then, Bakugo can use his store of power to break her aura. She only activates the semblance at the end of the match.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Already explained with AM, it is either PIS or the weakening bracelets.

And saying he can is another issue. She still has the ap advantage.

Bakugo only has a few fights under is belt.

Maybe he has the more versatile combat experience.

But Yang has more fights to her name.

Yeah, Bakugo is smarter, but he is also as hotheaded. He is also really arrogant.

Yang is arrogant, but Bakugo's arrogance has come to bite him a few times. Like say for example his fight with the villains before he got kidnapped.

Or the time he tried to solo All Might by himself for a few seconds, didnt go that far.

If it is a factor, Then Bakugo has: Intelligence and AOE.

Yang has Reactive Power Level, Already Higher Base AP, more fights under her belt and if you really want to allow it even though it isnt in character, more versatility with dust and aura.

I say Yang takes this mid diff.

Edit: Playing Devil's Advocate, Yang's hotheadness did come to bite her too against Adam, but that is really only it.

 

[Jinx666]

It only staggered him, the explosions clearly gain higher AP, whats saying they cant one shot a low aura Yang. Its the Final blow after the chipping of explosions that will end her

Are you kidding? Bakugo never lets his arrogance or hotheadedness, unlike Yang, get in the way of the fight, he never underestimates his opponent, thats been established through his fights. That argument is something no one should ever say would hold back Bakugo. He'll realise this is no joke. It didnt make him get kidnapped at all. He doesnt blindly go into a fight.

AM >>>>>>>>> Yang. That was due to perosonal issues too, he realised he couldnt win so he decided to run shortly after. He wouldnt treat Yang like he did with AM, who he was blindly wanting to surpass. He'd treat her like he did with any other villain or classmate. Carefully evaluating, finding her power, and exploiting her weaknesses.

She hasnt had more fights actually, not ones solo either. Bakugo has had more solo 1v1 fights. Remember this is Pre timeskip. Hes also fought a vaster array of fighters, who have had way more experiemce than Yangs. Saying she has an edge in experiemce compared to Bakugo is just a nono. She holds no advantages in skill to him. And Bakugo can built up AP with his gauntlets just like Yang, it isnt a trump card

 

[Theglassman12]

@Kinky it also happened when she ran into Neopolitan.

 

[KinkiestSins]

@Kinky it also happened when she ran into Neopolitan.

To be fair, that was to stall for time AND her arrogance.

The Adam thing was just her arrogance.

 

[KinkiestSins]

snip

1. Make a CRT this is a circle Jerk.

2. Yeah, he never does and even giving intelligence to him and forgiving this weakness, it doesnt really matter. She has 4 or 5 advantages, he has 2.

3. Make a CRT. Second thing...Thats SBA.

4. Already addressed this too "Maybe he has the more versatile combat experience"

He has fought more people with a far variety of abilities.

Yang has fought grimm and did pretty well with teamwork in the Vytal Festival.


It is clear we aren't gonna agree, so I am just gonna jet from this thread.

 

[Jinx666]

1) what the hell dont you get, im not trying to upgrade him up a tier. It was only a stagger on a restrained weaker AM. No one scales to AM, but the fact it could even stagger him just shows that the power isnt anything insignificant

2) The only advantage she holds is AP, which Bakugo can deal with, and her range I suppose. Other than that, theyre legitimately equal, same power store overtime, same pseudoflight, speed being equalised. But Bakugo legitimately outruns her easily in experience and intelligence. Yang is frankly an idiot, relying on brute force, compared to Bakugo, who will carefully and easily read her. Hes done it to her type before and he wont stop.

4) She still doesnt have more experience than him at all. She only started to realise she had to improve her fighting style after Adam ****** her over.

Every single grimm shes fought doesnt count as a literal fight, amd were talking 1v1 fights here. Yang fights with her team usually. Her teamwork isnt going to mean squat in this fight

 

[Eldi_Osmenaj]

Yang fra

 

[DraycoMakargo]

So let me get this straight. Because All might was restrained the feats of Bakugo taking beatings aren't that impressive? That would mean the restraints he had were enough to take him down several tiers right? I mean if the feats aren't impressive and Yang is one shotting as an 8-C, then that means the restraints were REALLY limiting.

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make much sense.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I'm not even following this thread, why did I get a notification that a reply had been removed?