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Yan Sen Plot Manipulation Removal

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That's why we call it plot manipulation through creation.
It is very obvious that his plot manip doesn't only come in creating stuff, because well...
A. He is literally the creator of the novel
B. He uses that plot manip to passively grow stronger
 
It is very obvious that his plot manip doesn't only come in creating stuff, because well...
A. He is literally the creator of the novel
B. He uses that plot manip to passively grow stronger
This shouldn't be hard to understand. You're right, my friend.
 
Dude we all know what setting means
That’s not the point
"A metafictional element is not a metafictional element"

So now, creating another character with the exact same plot armor that makes him invincible IN HIS OWN STORY isn't a form of plot manipulation or at least a creation to that level?
 
Yan sen clearly states Henry power is increasing his body wants to surpass him. If Yan sen cannot kill Henry then that’s just Immortality.
Give me a different interpretation of "I am the setting", that isn't utterly insane
Setting doesn’t automatically mean the whole plot it can mean various other things like Henry
Thats not Plot Manipulation.
 
You know, the argument against henry plot manip is just a bunch of baseless claims, and literally going against the definition of certain words, doesn't help how there is a consistent theme here
Henry is the creator of the novel
He is also the character designer
He is also the narrative
His mere existence makes people from other works of fiction become affected by his plot manip
 
It should be changed to plot based reactive evolution and plot based accelerated development not plot manip
They keep saying it’s Plot Manipulation. Like Yan sen already said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent.
 
They keep saying it’s Plot Manipulation. Like Yan sen already said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent.
This will eventually bring him to the top of the story. And as I said, the setting sets Henry up to be at his strongest before the war even begins. But evolution happens through fighting and during the war, so evolution is how plot manipulation works.
 
This will eventually bring him to the top of the story. And as I said, the setting sets Henry up to be at his strongest before the war even begins. But evolution happens through fighting and during the war, so evolution is how plot manipulation works.
Okay? You know haxes can come in several utilities right? Just because you can manipulate concepts, doesn't make you only able to manipulate concepts
 
You keep ignoring what Yan sen said. Henry never stated what the “setting” was only Yan sen did and he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent that and there already disproves any Plot Manipulation.
 
You keep ignoring what Yan sen said. Henry never stated what the “setting” was only Yan sen did and he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent that and there already disproves any Plot Manipulation.
I think you're the one ignoring what I wrote about evolution, dude.
 
Omg y’all just don’t listen he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent. Nothing in that implies plot manipulation. It just means his power to develop is infinite against his opponents. And it seems to be limited “in this place”.
 
Omg y’all just don’t listen he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent. Nothing in that implies plot manipulation. It just means his power to develop is infinite against his opponents. And it seems to be limited “in this place”.
....If I ignore the several mentions, and allegories of a meta narrative, and Henry being the creator of the story
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Omg y’all just don’t listen he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent. Nothing in that implies plot manipulation. It just means his power to develop is infinite against his opponents. And it seems to be limited “in this place”.
Yan Sen explains how the setting works. I assume you know that plot manipulations have their ways of working.
 
Omg y’all just don’t listen he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent. Nothing in that implies plot manipulation. It just means his power to develop is infinite against his opponents. And it seems to be limited “in this place”.
"With it"

That his character design means he'll become stronger over time is a fact, no one is denying this. What we're saying is that his power isn't merely an ability similar to other superpowers from the verse (since they come from Henry/Magnetic field) but comes from his very design.

If I create a character that is "the strongest superhero" and no one can beat him in the story because that's how I wrote it and yet, someone can create a duplicate of it and even win against it, it seems plot manipulation enough for me.
 
Wait yeah
yan sen saying the setting is the power to overtake contradicts what plot hax is?
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I told you it was a way of working and they explained to you what the setting was. Evolution is just a way of working. There is a difference between the two.
 
"With it"

That his character design means he'll become stronger over time is a fact, no one is denying this. What we're saying is that his power isn't merely an ability similar to other superpowers from the verse (since they come from Henry/Magnetic field) but comes from his very design.

If I create a character that is "the strongest superhero" and no one can beat him in the story because that's how I wrote it and yet, someone can create a duplicate of it and even win against it, it seems plot manipulation enough for me.
That's quite enough.
 
If I create a character that is "the strongest superhero" and no one can beat him in the story because that's how I wrote it and yet, someone can create a duplicate of it and even win against it, it seems plot manipulation enough for me.
It doesn’t indicate plot manipulation it just means Yan sen can create another Henry on the same level as the original.
 
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