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It’s literally just high level reactive evolution
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It is very obvious that his plot manip doesn't only come in creating stuff, because well...That's why we call it plot manipulation through creation.
The consequences of his character design is indeed this, but the cause is not "merely getting stronger", it's something deeper.It’s literally just high level reactive evolution
Dude we all know what setting means
This shouldn't be hard to understand. You're right, my friend.It is very obvious that his plot manip doesn't only come in creating stuff, because well...
A. He is literally the creator of the novel
B. He uses that plot manip to passively grow stronger
"A metafictional element is not a metafictional element"Dude we all know what setting means
That’s not the point
This is an objective commentary rather than your personal and subjective comments. He uses the scenario to constantly gain strength.Dude we all know what setting means
That’s not the point
Yan sen clearly states Henry power is increasing his body wants to surpass him. If Yan sen cannot kill Henry then that’s just Immortality.
Setting doesn’t automatically mean the whole plot it can mean various other things like HenryGive me a different interpretation of "I am the setting", that isn't utterly insane
Thats not Plot Manipulation.
Henry is the creator of the novel
He is also the character designer
He is also the narrative
His mere existence makes people from other works of fiction become affected by his plot manip
This is how Henry's plot manipulation works.It’s literally just high level reactive evolution
They keep saying it’s Plot Manipulation. Like Yan sen already said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent.It should be changed to plot based reactive evolution and plot based accelerated development not plot manip
Scan?You know, the argument against henry plot manip is just a bunch of baseless claims, and literally going against the definition of certain words, doesn't help how there is a consistent theme here
So you agree it’s reactive evolution on a narrative levelThis is how Henry's plot manipulation works.
He created the goddamn plot, how the hell isn't that full plot manipIt should be changed to plot based reactive evolution and plot based accelerated development not plot manip
Dude, it is literally a couple of posts above youScan?
This will eventually bring him to the top of the story. And as I said, the setting sets Henry up to be at his strongest before the war even begins. But evolution happens through fighting and during the war, so evolution is how plot manipulation works.They keep saying it’s Plot Manipulation. Like Yan sen already said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent.
This has nothing to do with removing plot manipulation, the setting just writes it as the strongest at the beginning.So you agree it’s reactive evolution on a narrative level
Not literally changing the narrative
Okay? You know haxes can come in several utilities right? Just because you can manipulate concepts, doesn't make you only able to manipulate conceptsThis will eventually bring him to the top of the story. And as I said, the setting sets Henry up to be at his strongest before the war even begins. But evolution happens through fighting and during the war, so evolution is how plot manipulation works.
the ironyYou keep ignoring
Setting is a clear as all hell word, there is not much room of interpretation, specially given the context of the storysetting
I think you're the one ignoring what I wrote about evolution, dude.You keep ignoring what Yan sen said. Henry never stated what the “setting” was only Yan sen did and he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent that and there already disproves any Plot Manipulation.
YeahIdk why but the link doesn't work directly, so here is the hyperlink.
Omg y’all just don’t listen he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent. Nothing in that implies plot manipulation. It just means his power to develop is infinite against his opponents. And it seems to be limited “in this place”.
....If I ignore the several mentions, and allegories of a meta narrative, and Henry being the creator of the story
Yan Sen explains how the setting works. I assume you know that plot manipulations have their ways of working.Omg y’all just don’t listen he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent. Nothing in that implies plot manipulation. It just means his power to develop is infinite against his opponents. And it seems to be limited “in this place”.
"With it"Omg y’all just don’t listen he said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent. Nothing in that implies plot manipulation. It just means his power to develop is infinite against his opponents. And it seems to be limited “in this place”.
YeahOkay? You know haxes can come in several utilities right? Just because you can manipulate concepts, doesn't make you only able to manipulate concepts
I told you it was a way of working and they explained to you what the setting was. Evolution is just a way of working. There is a difference between the two.Wait yeah
yan sen saying the setting is the power to overtake contradicts what plot hax is?
That's quite enough."With it"
That his character design means he'll become stronger over time is a fact, no one is denying this. What we're saying is that his power isn't merely an ability similar to other superpowers from the verse (since they come from Henry/Magnetic field) but comes from his very design.
If I create a character that is "the strongest superhero" and no one can beat him in the story because that's how I wrote it and yet, someone can create a duplicate of it and even win against it, it seems plot manipulation enough for me.
It doesn’t indicate plot manipulation it just means Yan sen can create another Henry on the same level as the original.If I create a character that is "the strongest superhero" and no one can beat him in the story because that's how I wrote it and yet, someone can create a duplicate of it and even win against it, it seems plot manipulation enough for me.
After Yan sen unleashes hisHenry is the one with plot manip, it’s just that Yan sen is stronger than his plot hax
wait wtf
Henry is the one with plot manip, it’s just that Yan sen is stronger than his plot hax
OhhhhhhhAfter Yan sen unleashes hisbankai,he was able to have better control over the plot than Henry
Yeahhhh mennAfter Yan sen unleashes hisbankai,he was able to have better control over the plot than Henry