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It’s literally just high level reactive evolution
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Yan Sen Plot Manipulation Removal
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KingNanaya
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It is very obvious that his plot manip doesn't only come in creating stuff, because well...
A. He is literally the creator of the novel
B. He uses that plot manip to passively grow stronger
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The consequences of his character design is indeed this, but the cause is not "merely getting stronger", it's something deeper.
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Dude we all know what setting means
That’s not the point
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This shouldn't be hard to understand. You're right, my friend.
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"A metafictional element is not a metafictional element"
So now, creating another character with the exact same plot armor that makes him invincible IN HIS OWN STORY isn't a form of plot manipulation or at least a creation to that level?
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This is an objective commentary rather than your personal and subjective comments. He uses the scenario to constantly gain strength.
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Yan sen clearly states Henry power is increasing his body wants to surpass him. If Yan sen cannot kill Henry then that’s just Immortality.
Setting doesn’t automatically mean the whole plot it can mean various other things like Henry
Thats not Plot Manipulation.
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It should be changed to plot based reactive evolution and plot based accelerated development not plot manip
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This is how Henry's plot manipulation works.
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They keep saying it’s Plot Manipulation. Like Yan sen already said the setting means an infinite power to overtake an opponent.
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Scan?
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So you agree it’s reactive evolution on a narrative level
Not literally changing the narrative
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He created the goddamn plot, how the hell isn't that full plot manip
Dude, it is literally a couple of posts above you
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This will eventually bring him to the top of the story. And as I said, the setting sets Henry up to be at his strongest before the war even begins. But evolution happens through fighting and during the war, so evolution is how plot manipulation works.
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This has nothing to do with removing plot manipulation, the setting just writes it as the strongest at the beginning.
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Okay? You know haxes can come in several utilities right? Just because you can manipulate concepts, doesn't make you only able to manipulate concepts
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the irony
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Idk why but the link doesn't work directly, so here is the hyperlink.
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Setting is a clear as all hell word, there is not much room of interpretation, specially given the context of the story
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I think you're the one ignoring what I wrote about evolution, dude.
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Yeah
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Yan Sen explains how the setting works. I assume you know that plot manipulations have their ways of working.
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"With it"
That his character design means he'll become stronger over time is a fact, no one is denying this. What we're saying is that his power isn't merely an ability similar to other superpowers from the verse (since they come from Henry/Magnetic field) but comes from his very design.
If I create a character that is "the strongest superhero" and no one can beat him in the story because that's how I wrote it and yet, someone can create a duplicate of it and even win against it, it seems plot manipulation enough for me.
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Wait yeah
yan sen saying the setting is the power to overtake contradicts what plot hax is?
yan sen saying the setting is the power to overtake contradicts what plot hax is?
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Yeah
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Ok nvm I disagree FRA
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I told you it was a way of working and they explained to you what the setting was. Evolution is just a way of working. There is a difference between the two.Wait yeah
yan sen saying the setting is the power to overtake contradicts what plot hax is?
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That's quite enough.
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wait wtf
Henry is the one with plot manip, it’s just that Yan sen is stronger than his plot hax
Henry is the one with plot manip, it’s just that Yan sen is stronger than his plot hax
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It doesn’t indicate plot manipulation it just means Yan sen can create another Henry on the same level as the original.
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After Yan sen unleashes his
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wait wtf
Henry is the one with plot manip, it’s just that Yan sen is stronger than his plot hax
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Ohhhhhhh
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Yeahhhh menn
