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Xeno Goku vs Palkia
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Grace period has ended. This can be added unless a mod says otherwise.
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>Seal an omnipresent.
Regardless of that not being in-character, good luck with that.
Regardless of that not being in-character, good luck with that.
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Palkia is omnipresent so no, he can't seal.
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Yeah. For Arceus's sake. Red Chain is explicitly made with Arceus's power in the canons where it shackles. When it's the Lake Trio, it's just summoning.PaChi2 said:
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Except Goku is an entirely different scenerio. Palkia was binded to the chains because of being specifically Arceus's power.
Goku's sealing doesnt fall under that, and the chains aren't sealing as previously mentioned anyway.
Btw, Palkia FRA.
Goku's sealing doesnt fall under that, and the chains aren't sealing as previously mentioned anyway.
Btw, Palkia FRA.
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Incon FRA.
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Incon FRA
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The arguments for incon were debunked. Just saying.
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Well, dunno about Goku's sealing. I was just addresing the whole "omnipresent" thing. I dont care if Goku can actually seal or not Palkia, but thr omnipresent argument is of no use.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Edit: How is Goku even supposed to seal? Mafuba? Its not explained in his profile. If its mafuba, he cant use it on Palkia.
Goku cant win here unless Im missing something.
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Goku can win, it's just that every way he can is OOC.
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Changing vote to Plakia
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What? When did that became a thing?The real cal howard said:
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The DBH Multiverse is WAY bigger than the Pokémon one, so no idea where do you get that from.
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Ionliosite said:
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Yes, and I also say the DBH Multiverse was still bigger on that very thread.
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No, you said it has the highest AP. Size and AP aren't interrelated.
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But... Tier 2 is fully based on the size...
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What? No, scaling exists. DB isn't the only verse with an exponentially increasing multiverse. Far from it. It's just the only one with characters who can destroy said multiverse hundreds to thousands of times over.
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Scaling isn't even the only reason Heroes has such AP. It's also because the multiverse is just really realy big, and just saying that it's "exponentially increasing" doesn't even start to cover it.
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I...never said it did tho? I'm aware of how beefy their multiverse is, and how fodder they'd be in 2-B if a certain Warren didn't upgrade their power. And also, yes it does.
It's basic multiverse theory. Every choice creates an alternate universe. Boi, you think DB was the first to come up with multiverse theory?
It's basic multiverse theory. Every choice creates an alternate universe. Boi, you think DB was the first to come up with multiverse theory?
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But this is wrong.The real cal howard said:
In Heroes, there's a timeline created per every possibility, and each timeline contains between 12 and 18 universes, depending on if they follow the possibility of Zen O destroying 6 universes.
Demigra had the power to destroy all timelines, meaning he scales to what I just mentioned, and he was defeated by SSJ1 Goku: Xeno. So figure out just how powerful Goku: Xeno is when he turns SSJ4.
So by this is: Every Possibility x 12-18 universes < Demigra < SSJ1 Goku: Xeno
To worsen things, if we take World Mission into account, there are actually 2 Multiverses, the regular one and Beat's World, which also contains the above mentioned cosmology.
So by this: 2 x (Every Possibility x 12-18 universes) < Demigra < SSJ1 Goku: Xeno
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By that logic, Pokemon is 300,000,000 x every possibility, dude.
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The difference is that Pokémon is based on creating an universe for every possiblity, while DB creates at least 12 for every one of them.
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That's never been confirmed tho? Trunks' words have said a "universe" is created.
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No? It's explicity timeline.
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So you're saying DB universes share a timeline? Meaning we should remove the 2-C feats of Beerus and Zeno.
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The 12 universes share a timeline, yes. That's already explained on Zen O's profile, and I don't see why it would downgrade them.
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It wasn't an upgrade, he just made a thread asking for their power and why it wasn't treated like it should be.The real cal howard said:
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Dude you're in that server. You know why it would be downgraded.
Not that it matters tho. I said from the jump that DB is muuuuch stronger than any other 2-B verse.
Not that it matters tho. I said from the jump that DB is muuuuch stronger than any other 2-B verse.
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It wasn't an upgrade, he just made a thread asking for their power and why it wasn't treated like it should be.
I wasn't being serious, my dude. Though I can see how it sounded like I was throwing shade.
I wasn't being serious, my dude. Though I can see how it sounded like I was throwing shade.
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