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Wuthering Waves Discussion Thread


Iv sent the vid b4 but its an old video and I didn't hear any responses

Oh, ngl I don't really pay attention to videos like this and I wouldn't really try to apply them to VSBW since often times they use their own interpretations or guidelines that don't match the wiki's. However, let me give it a look, can you send the timestamp you're referring to?
 
Oh, ngl I don't really pay attention to videos like this and I wouldn't really try to apply them to VSBW since often times they use their own interpretations or guidelines that don't match the wiki's. However, let me give it a look, can you send the timestamp you're referring to?
5:30 to 7:30 for uni, and 7:30 to 10:40 for inf 4d / 5d
 
Ok...I mean to be expected but already there are problems with this, for starters the celestial being Yangyang mentions in 1.0 has zero correlation to Jue, especially when Jue itself is literally nerfed, on the verge of death and lacking it's full authority. To top that all off, it is only a single part of the OG Huanglong Sentinel which split itself off to protect all the city states of the region. Regardless, the wiki is not lenient enough to treat simple statements of existing outside of time as being a dimensional tier above reality, as that is typically seen as just resistance to time manip or range. Time not flowing also doesn't necessarily equate to anything here, since it's just proof of his Sonoro being spatiotemporally isolated from reality, which is just fairly standard pocket reality hax
 
Overall, these kinds of arguments just wouldn't fly on the wiki. If you want to see why, I recommend checking the FAQ page it goes over a lot of stuff regarding standards for things like this and how the wiki differs from more public opinion regarding these types of feats
 
They're cooking something with Yangyang.
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You know how going through the strider gate, sends you straight inside Alephs, like does just have his mouth open staring at the strider gate, or has he devoured Solaris but can't get in due to the sea
 
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Aleph-1 transcend space and time would that discredit this calculation?

Also we should consider making Aleph-1 profile and edit/add Rover after he resonate with Exostrider as Rover who resonate with Exostrider would definitely scale to this calc (if the calc is accepted)
Aleph-1 is explicitly referred to as a being that transcends space-time, but that won't affect the calc.
 
Aleph-1 transcend space and time would that discredit this calculation?

Also we should consider making Aleph-1 profile and edit/add Rover after he resonate with Exostrider as Rover who resonate with Exostrider would definitely scale to this calc (if the calc is accepted)
It's a travel speed feat so idk why anyone would scale to it especially when UES is nowhere to be seen.

I might disagree with Aleph-1 being 5-D though, as this would imply the universe is 5-D which doesn't make sense and that it's rather consistent for Aleph-1 to just be a four-dimensional object similar to a blackhole in physics anyways. Not that it would warrant HDE.
 
I might disagree with Aleph-1 being 5-D though, as this would imply the universe is 5-D which doesn't make sense and that it's rather consistent for Aleph-1 to just be a four-dimensional object similar to a blackhole in physics anyways. Not that it would warrant HDE.
Disagreeing that Aleph-1 is not 5D is highkey cope, and no, you misunderstood. The universe statement Exostrider made was in reference to void space, he was not referring to the normal universe. In fact, that just confirms void space is of significant size, which makes it tierable, Aleph-1's various projections (which are all we ever see) are definitely not 5D yeah I agree with you there, but its true form which is literally bigger than void space, is. As it's stated countless times that void space exists inside Aleph-1, that is without a shadow of a doubt 5D.

Now does it scale to anyone? At the moment, absolutely not, but it is a very straightforward tier for it
 
Disagreeing that Aleph-1 is not 5D is highkey cope, and no, you misunderstood. The universe statement Exostrider made was in reference to void space, he was not referring to the normal universe. In fact, that just confirms void space is of significant size, which makes it tierable, Aleph-1's various projections (which are all we ever see) are definitely not 5-D yeah I agree with you there, but its true form which is literally bigger than void space, is. As it's stated countless times that void space exists inside Aleph-1, that is without a shadow of a doubt 5D.

Now does it scale to anyone? At the moment, absolutely not, but it is a very straightforward tier for it
The blackhole is literally the true form of Aleph-1 though? We literally have confirmations that its projections is the mecha that we're fighting, with the blackhole in the background being its real form. Also no, 5-D ≠ Low 1-C. You'd need feats of destroying a 5 dimensional structure to be tiered Low 1-C, it being significant doesn't really prove anything other than said Low 1-C is infinite in size as you'd still need feats of destroying it. If you wanna say that it's Low 1-C cause it created the Voidspace, well that's only a creation feat.
 
The blackhole is literally the true form of Aleph-1 though? We literally have confirmations that its projections is the mecha that we're fighting, with the blackhole in the background being its real form.
No, it isn't, both are projections, one is just a superior manifestation of the other
Also no, 5D = Low 1-C. You'd need feats of destroying a 5 dimensional structure to be tiered Low 1-C, it being significant doesn't really prove anything. If you wanna say that it's Low 1-C cause it created the Voidspace, well that's only a creation feat
You seem to misunderstand how higher tiers work, Aleph-1's true form would be 5D no matter what because it's true form literally dwarfs void space (said 5D realm) in size. This is one of the easiest ways to make a character qualify for higher dimensional tiers
 
No, it isn't, both are projections, one is just a superior manifestation of the other

You seem to misunderstand how higher tiers work, Aleph-1's true form would be 5D no matter what because it's true form literally dwarfs void space (said 5D realm) in size. This is one of the easiest ways to make a character qualify for higher dimensional tiers
Look, I need an actual confirmation or scans or like justifications or an explanation at the very least that Aleph-1's projections (the mecha stuff), the Aleph-1 that was BFR'd to the outer edge of the universe (the blackhole) and Aleph-1's true form as in the 5-D one or the Voidspace or whatever this could be. Like is there any scans that actually prove the Aleph-1 that was BFR'd to the outer edge and the 5-D one is different because I'm not seeing it

Also yeah thatd just mean 5-D HDE, not Low 1-C
 
Look, I need an actual confirmation or scans or like justifications or an explanation at the very least that Aleph-1's projections (the mecha stuff), the Aleph-1 that was BFR'd to the outer edge of the universe (the blackhole) and Aleph-1's true form as in the 5-D one or the Voidspace or whatever this could be. Like is there any scans that actually prove the Aleph-1 that was BFR'd to the outer edge and the 5-D one is different because I'm not seeing it
Fair enough, I haven't yet gathered all the scans from the recent patch since I've been busy, but like...the literal official description of void space states this lol. For the official proposal, I recommend waiting for the CRT regarding it whenever it comes out
Also yeah thatd just mean 5-D HDE, not Low 1-C
Nether...my boy, you do realize size and HDE are not the same thing right? While a large size character who dwarfs a higher dimensional realm would automatically get HDE, HDE characters do not automatically get Large Size. Have you ever wondered why that is?
 
Fair enough, I haven't yet gathered all the scans from the recent patch since I've been busy, but like...the literal official description of void space states this lol. For the official proposal, I recommend waiting for the CRT regarding it whenever it comes out
Which Aleph-1 was being talked about here
Nether...my boy, you do realize size and HDE are not the same thing right? While a large size character who dwarfs a higher dimensional realm would automatically get HDE, HDE characters do not automatically get Large Size. Have you ever wondered why that is?
But if you conveniently replaced H in HDE with B as in BDE especially Type 3 BDE, wouldn't they automatically have Large Size Type 10 even if they were a regular human in size?
 
Which Aleph-1 was being talked about here
The real form I am referring to, so neither of the ones we see at the end of 3.3, again, literally doesn't scale to anyone. Which is why I'm not very eager to make the CRT
But if you conveniently replaced H in HDE with B as in BDE especially Type 3 BDE, wouldn't they automatically have Large Size Type 10 even if they were a regular human in size?
Well technically yeah, but that would be redundant. Since BDE as an ability (types 2 and 3 specifically) automatically give you large size anyways, as BDE is a matter of "size" to begin with. Which is why it applies to characters who's existential status are L1A or 1A, and also usually why you don't see many profiles with both, to make an example it'd be like giving a character AE1 and immortality type 8 for the same reasons, which the page explicitly states not to do (unless of course, the justification for both are different)
 
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How many dimensions are there exactly?
There is no confirmed amount, but the fact Aleph-1's true form dwarfs void space in size means it isn't entirely unlikely that there is an even higher dimension where said form would reside in logically speaking
 
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There is no confirmed amount, but the fact Aleph-1's true form dwarfs void space in size means it isn't entirely unlikely that there is an even higher dimension where said form would rely in logically speaking
How many do you think? And how many dimensions does voidspace have?
Above 6D?
 
The blackhole is literally the true form of Aleph-1 though? We literally have confirmations that its projections is the mecha that we're fighting, with the blackhole in the background being its real form. Also no, 5-D ≠ Low 1-C. You'd need feats of destroying a 5 dimensional structure to be tiered Low 1-C, it being significant doesn't really prove anything other than said Low 1-C is infinite in size as you'd still need feats of destroying it. If you wanna say that it's Low 1-C cause it created the Voidspace, well that's only a creation feat.
It's not though, it's just closest concept lower dimensional beings can percieve it as. Aleph-1 itself is NOT a black hole.
 
Well, when we fought the Mecha it clearly stated that it's a projection of Aleph-1 then we see it merging with the blackhole (which is Aleph-1, as Exostrider refers it to that when it BFR'd said blackhole). It's a hard case when the feats doesn't give us any idea about the statements there as if the blackhole is Aleph-1's true form then it cannot be higher-dimensional
 
Well, when we fought the Mecha it clearly stated that it's a projection of Aleph-1 then we see it merging with the blackhole (which is Aleph-1, as Exostrider refers it to that when it BFR'd said blackhole). It's a hard case when the feats doesn't give us any idea about the statements there as if the blackhole is Aleph-1's true form then it cannot be higher-dimensional
Them stating "black hole" is more so designation of aleph-1 not literal description of it being a black hole. Because like aemeath intimacy story says, black hole is the closest human concept they can see it as. Hence why everyone refers to it as a "black hole".
 
Yo with aeons getting debunked into oblivion and aleph 1 possibly getting l1c I'll be laughing my ass off to death 😹😹😹
 
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Well, when we fought the Mecha it clearly stated that it's a projection of Aleph-1 then we see it merging with the blackhole (which is Aleph-1, as Exostrider refers it to that when it BFR'd said blackhole). It's a hard case when the feats doesn't give us any idea about the statements there as if the blackhole is Aleph-1's true form then it cannot be higher-dimensional
Also, the eye is the projection. Not the mecha. Hence why it is referred as "watcher". We never met true form of aleph-1.

Edit: just found that out.
 
Re-reading Carlotta abilities, she has transmutation, disintegration, existence erasure and Leviathan in her Fleurdelys form tank these with no problem so Carthy and possibly Post 2.2 Rover should have the same resistance.
 
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