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Wuthering Waves Discussion Thread

Not sure, I haven't given things regarding her any formal thought yet. Outside of the L1C stuff, it's possible I'd have to consider it some more though
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
What are you talking about? If it isn't in the game where do you think they get it from?
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I’m referring to the part that says “the Wuwa wiki states this,” but doesn’t include a direct in-game scan. The section that follows shows a similar scan, but it’s not the exact one quoted from the wiki. I just want to confirm whether the wiki text is actually backed by a direct in-game scan. From what I remember, it is—but now I’m not entirely sure.
 
IStar0thh said:
I’m referring to the part that says “the Wuwa wiki states this,” but doesn’t include a direct in-game scan. The section that follows shows a similar scan, but it’s not the exact one quoted from the wiki. I just want to confirm whether the wiki text is actually backed by a direct in-game scan. From what I remember, it is—but now I’m not entirely sure.
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That's why it's not recommended to use fan wiki because it's fan-made + some of their opinions
 
IStar0thh said:
I’m referring to the part that says “the Wuwa wiki states this,” but doesn’t include a direct in-game scan. The section that follows shows a similar scan, but it’s not the exact one quoted from the wiki. I just want to confirm whether the wiki text is actually backed by a direct in-game scan. From what I remember, it is—but now I’m not entirely sure.
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Brother...it's literally from the story chapter, its not meant to say the exact same thing, because it isn't solely from the loading screen. It's a summary of the necrostar which obviously takes info from various in game sources, the loading screen doesn't tell you it's a type of stellar matrice, because the researchers in the black shores are the ones who tell you that before you enter it...guys I know its been some time since 1.3 but cmon...we cannot be serious rn
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Brother...it's literally from the story chapter, its not meant to say the exact same thing, because it isn't solely from the loading screen. It's a summary of the necrostar which obviously takes info from various in game sources, the loading screen doesn't tell you it's a type of stellar matrice, because the researchers in the black shores are the ones who tell you that before you enter it...guys I know its been some time since 1.3 but cmon...we cannot be serious rn
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I don't think he meant necrostar
 
I understand the scepticism, so yeah, if possible people should use in-game materials or stuff published by devs, like this:
 
SweetDao said:
I understand the scepticism, so yeah, if possible people should use in-game materials or stuff published by devs, like this:
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Everything mentioned in that highlighted wiki segment is something that's taken directly from the game, specifically during the 1.3 quest. It's not like I just decided to use a random wiki statement without checking it's validity
 
Also yes, that image is literally what's stated on the wiki page anyways. They just got what we learned from the 1.3 quest and put it into a paragraph
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Everything mentioned in that highlighted wiki segment is something that's taken directly from the game, specifically during the 1.3 quest. It's not like I just decided to use a random wiki statement without checking it's validity
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Yeah, I don't doubt, it's just better to use "proof" rather than just quoting the wiki (especially since, most of the time, they tend to just put reference for said text)
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Everything mentioned in that highlighted wiki segment is something that's taken directly from the game, specifically during the 1.3 quest. It's not like I just decided to use a random wiki statement without checking it's validity
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I’m not saying this, bro. I’m just saying that if this information is stated directly in-game, it’s much better to use that instead of relying on the wiki. Like it or not, the wiki isn’t written by the developers.
For example, the wiki description says that Necrostar is a celestial body, that everything is subject to its gravity, and even refers to it as a black hole. However, the in-game scan that’s actually linked only states that it’s a black hole.
The wiki version sounds much stronger, but if that additional information isn’t explicitly stated in-game, then it doesn’t really hold weight.

Edit: I understand that the quest provides information that can lead to that conclusion. However, the VSBwiki isn’t only for people who play the game, so it’s important to include enough context and evidence for even those unfamiliar with it to understand the reasoning.
 
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AlipheeseXIV said:
Also yes, that image is literally what's stated on the wiki page anyways. They just got what we learned from the 1.3 quest and put it into a paragraph
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I think it would be better to link the image from SweetDao directly instead of using the wiki explanation. Other than that, everything looks fine.
 
Additionally, this reminded me that Wuthering Waves has an official website where they publish lore information—I had completely forgotten about that.
 
IStar0thh said:
I’m not saying this, bro. I’m just saying that if this information is stated directly in-game, it’s much better to use that instead of relying on the wiki. Like it or not, the wiki isn’t written by the developers.
For example, the wiki description says that Necrostar is a celestial body, that everything is subject to its gravity, and even refers to it as a black hole. However, the in-game scan that’s actually linked only states that it’s a black hole.
The wiki version sounds much stronger, but if that additional information isn’t explicitly stated in-game, then it doesn’t really hold weight.

Edit: I understand that the quest provides information that can lead to that conclusion. However, the VSBwiki isn’t only for people who play the game, so it’s important to include enough context and evidence for even those unfamiliar with it to understand the reasoning.
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We're just saying shit for the sake of saying shit atp, the information on the wiki is literally taken from the game, end of discussion man...it wouldn't hold weight if it wasn't from the game, but it is. Like...this is a completely meaningless tangent
The wiki description says that Necrostar is a celestial body and that everything is subject to its gravity.
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Obviously? It's a black hole...that is the LITERAL definition of a black hole and how it physically functions. The wiki version does not "make it sound stronger" it just literally tells you the definition of a black hole, like...man...google black hole what do we get?
A black hole is an astronomical body so compact that its gravity prevents anything, including light, from escaping.
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What is an astronomical body? A celestial body. Like...I'm just gonna stop there
 
Is it even said to have an event horizon? Did I miss something? And why would it be an antifeat? Me confused.
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
We're just saying shit for the sake of saying shit atp, the information on the wiki is literally taken from the game, end of discussion man...it wouldn't hold weight if it wasn't from the game, but it is. Like...this is a completely meaningless tangent
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Bro, the text quoted by the wiki doesn’t have an in-game scan attached in the calculation section. I’m just suggesting that you include the scan SweetDao mentioned, because aside from making the calculation more credible, it also helps prevent potential issues in the future.
AlipheeseXIV said:
Obviously? It's a black hole...that is the LITERAL definition of a black hole and how it physically functions. The wiki version does not "make it sound stronger" it just literally tells you the definition of a black hole, like...man...google black hole what do we get?

What is an astronomical body? A celestial body. Like...I'm just gonna stop there
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And I know how black holes work. The problem is that many people who read the calculation might not be part of the fandom. In a lot of black hole calcs, there’s usually explicit in-game justification showing why it’s considered a real black hole.
If you only include the scan referenced in the calculation, all you really have is a mention of the term “black hole,” while the additional details are coming from the wiki.

But whatever, man, you seem pressured for nothing, I'm just trying to help. Do whatever you want👍
 
Actually, since we're on that topic, is Guixu's city black hole a true one?
 
IStar0thh said:
Bro, the text quoted by the wiki doesn’t have an in-game scan attached in the calculation section. I’m just suggesting that you include the scan SweetDao mentioned, because aside from making the calculation more credible, it also helps prevent potential issues in the future.
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If there's someone who needs to be told the same thing just with more words, then that is undoubtedly their own issue. Because there is quite literally ZERO DIFFERENCE between saying the Necrostar is a black hole and that the Necrostar is a celestial body and that everything is subject to its gravity. it is literally THE SAME THING just one has more words than the other ☠️ ☠️ ☠️
IStar0thh said:
And I know how black holes work.
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It really does not look like that bro
 
SweetDao said:
Actually, since we're on that topic, is Guixu's city black hole a true one?
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Yes, unless you can find something that actively goes against it functioning like a actual black hole then I don't see how one could use the argument that 'it's not real'. At least afaik, unless you know something I don't
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Yes, unless you can find something that actively goes against it functioning like a actual black hole then I don't see how one could use the argument that 'it's not real'. At least afaik, unless you know something I don't
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I mean, I'm kinda ass about that tbf, but it doesn't look like it's sucking anything rn? Can black holes just be "dormant"?
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
If there's someone who needs to be told the same thing just with more words, then that is undoubtedly their own issue. Because there is quite literally ZERO DIFFERENCE between saying the Necrostar is a black hole and that the Necrostar is a celestial body and that everything is subject to its gravity. it is literally THE SAME THING just one has more words than the other ☠️ ☠️ ☠️
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Yes—just like in countless other fictional works where characters use abilities called “black holes” or "objects" are described as black holes, only for the wiki to reject or dismiss them as not being real black holes in a technical sense.
AlipheeseXIV said:
It really does not look like that bro
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Ok
 
IStar0thh said:
Yes—just like in countless other fictional works where characters use abilities called “black holes” or "objects" are described as black holes, only for the wiki to reject or dismiss them as not being real black holes in a technical sense.
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If you're implying you disagree with it being a black hole, explain why, if you're just sitting here saying all this yet don't disagree...what's the purpose of it?
 
SweetDao said:
I mean, I'm kinda ass about that tbf, but it doesn't look like it's sucking anything rn? Can black holes just be "dormant"?
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I thought the same thing. It's a bit strange, but I don't know if that alone would be enough to rule out the possibility of it being a real black hole.
 
We're fr about to get tier 5 just to outgrow the tier almost immediately, not even sure if making a CRT for this is worth it with how long they take to get accepted
 
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