Will this make Peak Human faster?

[Therefir]

To be honest it mostly depends on the tree, but results tend to range from Class 10 to Class 25, there are Class 5 trees of course, so we first need to find what kind of tree Cap lifted. My point was that this is clearly a superhuman feat for Cap.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

The 2500 lb (1136.36 kg) leg press shouldn't have been taken at face value since we don't see the machine itself. If it's a 45 degree leg press, he's probably lifting closer to 948 kg, which is Class 1 (1136.36*sin(45 degrees) +0.18*1136.36 for friction).

@Spino - It would depend on the size of the tree, as well as the density of the wood...same with telephone poles. 318 kg to 3000 kg

 

[Therefir]

Does that refer to the flying football or the kick itself though?

It likely refers to the kick, the fastest a soccer ball has been kicked is 59 m/s, way above the other record.

 

[Therefir]

I just noticed that a kick like that would generate 783.225 joules of energy, it's a shame Composite Human is not around anymore.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

If you're looking for AP 450 kg car + 147 kg guy = 597 kg. 25 m course in 10.00 seconds flat = 2.5 m/s. KE = 0.5*597*2.5^2 = 1,865.625 J

 

[Flashlight237]

Are y'all sure peak human is 12.51 m/s and not 12.42 m/s like it realistically is?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Bolt's fastest velocity in his 100 sprint is 12.5 m/s.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

If you trust Wikipedia it's 27.78 mph = 12.42 m/s

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Hmmn it seems that Wikipedia cited official sources, I suppose 12.43 is a better border then.

Though wouldn't that make Peak Human really really small, like 10.13 to 12.43 m/s?

 

[Therefir]

Did that value take into account the time he need to accelerate? I think we're using his maximum speed during the race.

Edit: That seems to be the case, but then I wonder where 12.51 m/s came from.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

12.42 is the maximum speed.

12.5 according to other sources, but Wikipedia cited official sources saying 12.42.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

Where did 9.8 m/s come from? Maybe we could use 9.24 m/s to account for the women? [100 m / 10.82 s = 9.24 m/s]. Technically, we don't separate humans by gender.

Also, Batman, I see your rock and raise you a a 254.55 kg manhood stone.

The 12.42 is between the 60 and 80 meters, so it's over the course of 20 meters...he might've peaked higher at some point during that though.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

But if we use 9.24 m/s fairly athletic men would then be peak human.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

Eh, the 9.8 is probably fine then. Maybe the +0.9 m/s had something to do with the 12.51 instead of 12.42?

The fastest woman is 9.53 m/s.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

Actually, Number 103 (jumps from 88 to 103) would be 10.03 m/s (22.44 mph). Top 100-ish might be better than Top 25?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I suppose so.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with if you apply the changes agreed upon by Therefir and Spino.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I think we all agree Lifting Strength to be 500 kg (forgot the exact value), but we haven't agreed on speed yet.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Therefir]

10.03/12.42 for Peak Human speed should be fine.

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

well, Eddie Hall is not a human, He is a monster lol

The maximum of a death lifting is 500 kilograms, but that comes from warming up in order to be able to lift that weight.

But without warming up, he can do 450 kilos for real or first lift

 

[Therefir]

That could be applied to Usain Bolt's case too, he required considerable training and effort to reach that speed, it was not something he could easily achieve whenever he wanted to.

 

[Antvasima]

10.03/12.42 for Peak Human speed should be fine.

So should this be applied to our Lifting Strength and Speed pages then?

 

[ChemistKyle89]

@ Ant

The numbers on Superhuman Physical Characteristics need to be fixed as well. Speed should be 12.42 m/s and Lifting Strength should be 500 kg.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Good catch. That will need to be corrected as well.

 

[Antvasima]

Is some staff member willing to handle this? You should link to the evidence for the new ratings within the relevant pages.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I will apply this, but I think I need Speed, Lifting Strength and Superhuman Physical Characteristics unlocked.

I don't know how many people will this affect, but I daresay it's not a lot.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. I have unlocked them. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I have applied the changes.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I have also made the peak human border 12.43 instead of 12.42, since if we make it 12.42 then Usain Bolt's 12.42 will be superhuman.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Does anyone know anyone profiles actually affected by this?

 

[Agnaa]

I don't think a change like this should have been done.

It's a minuscule change that's bound to require alterations again regularly in the future. And it's really difficult to find pages that are actually affected by this.

It seems to just introduce hard to fix inaccuracies for the sake of making things 1% more accurate.

 

[Agnaa]

At least when we're changing tier borders it's due to calculation inaccuracies which would (hopefully) never need to be fixed in the future, and at least we have tier categories to make the fixes easy.

 

[Antvasima]

I personally support the change, and think that adjustments in the few cases that will be affected can be found and corrected gradually over the years.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Yeah, it's rather similar to the original 12.50 m/s upgrade, it doesn't really affect many people.

 

[Agnaa]

That seems like the annoying part about it. It's going to be really hard to even find out which pages are affected by it, especially with how few people know about the change.

 

[KLOL506]

Pretty sure Wikipedia showed short-burst speeds of 13 m/s

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Wait huh?

 

[KLOL506]

I forgot the link sadly.

But it was for a very, very, very short period of time, around a second or so.

 

[KLOL506]

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