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But I still agree me or someone more knowledgeable should go ahead with a structured deletion thread. But for now I'll keep looking if no one else is willing to.
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Why is this fanfiction on the wiki?
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But I still agree me or someone more knowledgeable should go ahead with a structured deletion thread. But for now I'll keep looking if no one else is willing to.
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Lmao what a shitshow. Why are chinaman novels like this?
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They like to make fanfiction. Qidian is full of this. And they don't care about copyright, if it's popular enough it can get licensied in their site.
Have many novel about people going into anime world (like date a live/naruto/db) or summoning character from these world that get licensied.
Have many novel about people going into anime world (like date a live/naruto/db) or summoning character from these world that get licensied.
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Honestly, the verse existence is somewhat in a weird position to be fair. I doubt ActuallySpaceMan42 was ever dishonest when he presented the verse to the staff or that somehow people wouldn't know about the existence of said characters seeing all the blogs he did.
If the staff agreed to it, it means that it had been thoroughly examined no? I doubt they would let fanfiction level (cough) of power just exist as they please on the wiki. Wasn't the whole deal with the series of books that only the first one had such a "copyright" issue?
In any case, for the sake of his work and if the staff changes their opinion, it should be moved to another wiki, just like others people suggested.
If the staff agreed to it, it means that it had been thoroughly examined no? I doubt they would let fanfiction level (cough) of power just exist as they please on the wiki. Wasn't the whole deal with the series of books that only the first one had such a "copyright" issue?
In any case, for the sake of his work and if the staff changes their opinion, it should be moved to another wiki, just like others people suggested.
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Yea definitely, it'd be a shame for something he spent so much time on to just be removed without any other place. This verse staying or being moved is entirely staff decision like any removal is too.
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Yeah nuke this to FC/OC wiki
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Who would've thunk it that the basically Chinese knock-off version of SCP was complete fanfiction....
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The staff thread was merely if the Tier 1 rating was valid, not if the series is considered fan fiction.
When previously brought up to me idea was that they were just references to other characters to my memory (such as this thing looks like a Balrog). If it's just a monetized hypercrossover with a bunch of people it would fit more in line with FC/OC due to how we treat Copyright and intellectual property.
Though theoretically, if accounting for Chinese lax copyright laws, you could treat every referenced character as a non-canon version of the original and that might not effect anything. Though at that point technically any fan fiction would be viable for the site.
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Shit sounds peak ngl
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Is maou safe?
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No Originality?
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It's not fan fiction, so it does not qualify for being FC/OC. None of the characters scale to their original version, the verse is under copyright with it's own officially licensed comic, it's legally being sold, and the author stated multiple times he's not writing fan fiction and on Qidian it is not listed under the fan fiction section.
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I've checked this issue with staff before, it doesn't break any rules.
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Doesn't matter if a character doesn't scale to original. That is AU
Copyright in China is very loose.
Death of the author.
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As has been discussed in this thread, this really doesn't matter much because China's copyright laws are incredibly lax and let's you get away with creating and publishing stuff like this all the time.
This also isn't an argument. If anything, this is just an example of Death of the Author.
Cool, now can you show screenshots of this or bring any of these mentioned staff to this thread? Because right now it seems a lot of them are against the verse.
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Do you happen to know if there are more references/naming of already existing characters beyond the first book?
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Don't really know the story, but just on your last point, fan fiction is not always under the fan fiction section on Qidian. For example a lot of Harry potter fanfiction is on the 奇幻 (fantasy) section. Just reading from this thread it sounds like the books are 无限流 (infinte style? idk how to translate basically just main character going to different worlds often from established IPs) which alot of the times are a type of fan fic.
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Typically it mostly depends on the nature of what it is. Jojo having a single panel of Spider-Man's hand isn't a copyright violation or anything like that. It would be consistent usage of other character's likeness or a licensed character themselves being used in a work where the line is drawn.
For a series with a ton of references like Scott Pilgrim, it also depends on how much that other material effects stuff. A bunch of one panel references isn't the same as a character actively being involved in the plot or doing stuff.
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They don't need to be.
Evidently the author has no idea what he is doing then.
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Well the line if fan fiction can just be different. If the Universe just allows a other characters to exist then it wouldn't be fan fiction in the traditional sense, especially when the main character is an OC.
It's more about plot impact and how much they borrow ideas that would make the franchise useable or not.
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The author saying he's not creating fanfiction is tantamount to someone punching another in the face and that same person said they didn't punch that other person in the face despite the very visual fact that they did punch that person in the face.
Homie's opinion literally doesn't matter at all within the context of him actually creating what's definitionally considered as "fanfiction" or not, he could believe he's not creating fanfiction all he wants, if you're by definition creating fanfiction, you're creating fanfiction. Simple as.
Homie's opinion literally doesn't matter at all within the context of him actually creating what's definitionally considered as "fanfiction" or not, he could believe he's not creating fanfiction all he wants, if you're by definition creating fanfiction, you're creating fanfiction. Simple as.
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The Author doesn't pull these characters out of thin air, nor do they greatly affect the plot;
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Having Saitama appear, join the MC's organization and help him fight through to the final boss, is a lot different then him appearing for a few chapters cause of a special item that pulls fantastical creatures from an alternate earth and dealing with him for 10 minutes.
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Greatly affecting the plot isn't really what I was pushing. It's active involvement and continued usage that would decide usability. If there's just chapter where character's the author doesn't own are around and doing stuff it's just intellectual infringement at that point.
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What China considers (or not) as fanfiction is not what vsb considers (or not) as fanfiction. It might not be for them but it is for us. So saying that it is allowed in china shouldn't be a reason to allow it here. This isn't a Chinese battleboarding site...
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That's still taking a character from another fictional work into this one. Still fanfiction.
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They aren't, they don't naturally exist in the author's stories, they appear to be experimented on in a lower dimension for a chapter then are never brought up.
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The reasoning for why they're present in the story doesn't matter to the question if it's fanficiton or not.
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And utilizing "What aboutism" if the brief appearances or borrowing of concepts is fanfiction, things like Animator vs Animation and any verse like it would also be FC/OC.
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Also with all the other intellectual infringement I believe it's good to bring up the keys that are obviously MC transforming into other characters and gaining their abilities. This is a consistent thing as well apparently and very relevant in MC's growth in power.
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Well, to settle this in a civil way I'll ask the OP @BestMGQScalerEver this: Organize quotes and examples of what you believe suggest that the work uses to much copyrighted material to be on VSBattles and a series.
@ActuallySpaceMan42 will be allowed to respond and I'll call in other mods to decide what to do.
Just saying things without textual examples isn't going to get us anywhere and that would be the simplest way to go.
@ActuallySpaceMan42 will be allowed to respond and I'll call in other mods to decide what to do.
Just saying things without textual examples isn't going to get us anywhere and that would be the simplest way to go.
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That's fair.
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