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Why is Canon Goku weaker then Xeno Goku

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the Goku that appears in DBH that also goes Super Saiyan Blue is NOT Canon Goku. Xeno Goku, likewise, isn't canon. The Anime/Manga is completely separate from the Videogames until proven otherwise. Also we know like 3 Gokus that are almost exactly like Canon Goku so just looking, acting and being similarly powerful doesn't prove anything.
 
He follows the story of DBH Goku, who is simply DBS Goku in Dragon Ball Heroes, which doesn't apply to canon.
 
Akreious said:
the Goku that appears in DBH that also goes Super Saiyan Blue is NOT Canon Goku. Xeno Goku, likewise, isn't canon. The Anime/Manga is completely separate from the Videogames until proven otherwise. Also we know like 3 Gokus that are almost exactly like Canon Goku so just looking, acting and being similarly powerful doesn't prove anything.
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My bad i guess, i just remember reading the DB Wiki on Heroes, and it said it was specifically Goku from the main timeline, same power and all. though its still weird though.
 
It is technically from the main timeline in DBH, just not the same Canon.

So do you have any more questions? Or can the thread be closed?
 
CC Gi Goku is Xenoverse Goku which is canon to Heros. Xenoverse Goku was Canon Goku until he fought Demigra, Towa, Mira, Fuu, and Mira SS4. He is as powerful if not more powerful than Xeno Goku. CC Gi is in the robes of xenoverse for CaC.
 
The only Goku which is canon right now is the DBS anime Goku. All other Gokus from DBH are non-canon.
 
AppleLord said:
CC Gi Goku is Xenoverse Goku which is canon to Heros. Xenoverse Goku was Canon Goku until he fought Demigra, Towa, Mira, Fuu, and Mira SS4. He is as powerful if not more powerful than Xeno Goku. CC Gi is in the robes of xenoverse for CaC.
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No. No and NOOOO. CC Gi Goku is not Xenoverse Goku. There is nothing that even implies this. Xenoverse Goku has SSJ4, CC Gi Goku, as far as we know doesn't and he is Post Tournament of Power. Xenoverse is canon to Heroes, but not in that way. Lore and other stuff yes. Only thing character noteworthy in Xenoverse to Heroes is the death of Demigra which was mentioned in Heroes, from Xenoverse. CC Gi Goku doesn't know about the Demon Gods until Fu comes along.
 
CC Gi is a symbol created by Bulma in Xenoverse. How come CC GI Goku isn't Xenoverse Goku who keeps forgetting the Xenoverse timeline for some reason.
 
You literally ignored what I said

CC Gi Goku doesn't know the Demon Gods until Fu, Xenoverse Goku does know them

Xenoverse Goku has SSJ4. CC Gi Goku doesn't.

Unless you can prove the points above wrong, then you are wrong.

Don't try debate me on Heroes lore fam
 
@ Zenkai

are these abilities real or bs? someone said Goku has these in heroes

  • Light Slash: An attack made of "Temporal" light, it is able to negate the Immortality and Regenerationn of Time Breaker Zamasu (Who has Mid-Godly and Type 8). Another side-effect is the ability to Paradox someone out of existence; erasing their past.
  • Destructo Disc: An extremely fine disc of Ki; it negates durability by it's sheer edge. When measured by Xeno Bulma, the edge of this attack was said to be perfectly sharp on even the sub-atomic Level.
    • Godly Destructo Disc: An enhanced version with Godly Ki. This version of the attack warps reality itself in order to cut through the enemy with absolute surety. This attack is even more lethal when used in the void; coating itself with void energies and granting it existence erasing properties able to harm even Concepts.
  • Photonic Power Pole: Goku is able to manipulate space itself in order to enhance his Power Pole. As the power pole is completely and utterly indestructible even at his range of Power, he's able to enhance it to supernatural feats. By applying dangerous "God Photons" onto it, Goku is able to produce a "Blade" of energy from the Pole and slice through any and all things. This has been shown to be able to seriously harm the concept of Death; almost erasing it before King Kai told him to cease (Genesis Beerus later got annoyed at Death and erased it anyways).
  • 6th Sense: An ability he mysteriously gained one day; it allows Goku to see next moves of his opponent even if there's no future to look at, get a general grasp of his opponent's moves and sense people across impossible barriers under normal conditions.
  • Advanced Instant Transmission: Due to long-time usage of Instant Transmission, Goku has gained an extreme mastery of this ability. Able to be used without any hand gestures and only requiring that Goku knows where he wants to go. This is able to be used in order to traverse through time when used in conjunction with the 6th Sense.
  • Divine Mafuuba: An advanced version of the regular Mafuuba, Goku is able to seal anything inside its very own "Locked" Pocket Dimension. The only time it was used, it was able to completely and utterly seal away a Time Breaker Alternate-Universe Xeno Goku permanently despite his non-corporeality. This ability is also the only known move to get Genesis Beerus to talk about a mortal seriously.
  • Hakai: A technique learned from Whis and Beerus, Goku is the only mortal to get as close to as the real deal as possible. Although with a Charge-Up Time of 5 seconds, this technique is just as effective as a real Full-On God of Destruction's version.
  • Ultimate Mirror: An extremely advanced Godly-Ki Technique utilized by Whis. After several grueling millennia in a more advanced version of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Goku is able to attain this ability. This technique has the ultimate ability to reflect most attacks; Physical, Ki-Based, Reality-Based, Soul-Based, Time-Based, Void-Based, Intangible or Non-Corporeal, and much more with the only known attacks to bypass this being the Hakai of Gods of Destruction. This technique was apparently made by the Grand Priest.
  • Super Saiyan: A power-up transformation; it boosts his base power by 50x its normal abilities whilst also simultaneously granting Goku golden hair and blue pupils.
    • Super Saiyan 2: A further-enhanced state; it grants power 100x that of regular Super Saiyan and gives Goku a sparking, electric aura.
    • Super Saiyan 3: The result of a Saiyan unleashing their total primal abilities, this grants a multiplier of 400x that of Super Saiyan 2.
    • Super Saiyan 4: A result of fusing the Oozaru form with Super Saiyan yet retaining control, this form grants Goku a massive power increase of 1000x that of Super Saiyan 3.
    • Super Saiyan God: A form never shown to have, but implied. This state is unknown in strength but seems to grant Goku immeasurable power that easily outclasses Super Saiyan 4.
    • Super Saiyan Blue: A form he donned once (During his first encounter with Genesis Beerus). This form is said to surpass even that of Demigra with Toki Toki's Egg and is possibly the only form "Mega Max Fu" possibly fears from Xeno Goku.
  • Kaioken: An ability used to temporarily surpass one's limits. Xeno Goku has learned to harness this ability in conjunction with any of his transformations; granting him power never yet seen before.
    • Times 100: This is Goku's "Comfortable" multiplier where he can apply to any of his transformations. He can casually have conversations and live out his days whilst in this state.
    • Times 10 Million: Goku's upper maximum and only used when he really wants to kill. This multiplier is insane, allowing Goku to even outpace Concepts and leave his opponents in his dust within a single instant. Those who try to attack Goku whilst he's charging up for times 10 Million will find themselves incapable of getting close; with even the Max Power of Demigra being incapable of getting anywhere near Goku.
 
Frantzy12 said:
@ Zenkai
are these abilities real or bs? someone said Goku has these in heroes

  • Light Slash: An attack made of "Temporal" light, it is able to negate the Immortality and Regenerationn of Time Breaker Zamasu (Who has Mid-Godly and Type 8). Another side-effect is the ability to Paradox someone out of existence; erasing their past.
  • Destructo Disc: An extremely fine disc of Ki; it negates durability by it's sheer edge. When measured by Xeno Bulma, the edge of this attack was said to be perfectly sharp on even the sub-atomic Level.
    • Godly Destructo Disc: An enhanced version with Godly Ki. This version of the attack warps reality itself in order to cut through the enemy with absolute surety. This attack is even more lethal when used in the void; coating itself with void energies and granting it existence erasing properties able to harm even Concepts.
  • Photonic Power Pole: Goku is able to manipulate space itself in order to enhance his Power Pole. As the power pole is completely and utterly indestructible even at his range of Power, he's able to enhance it to supernatural feats. By applying dangerous "God Photons" onto it, Goku is able to produce a "Blade" of energy from the Pole and slice through any and all things. This has been shown to be able to seriously harm the concept of Death; almost erasing it before King Kai told him to cease (Genesis Beerus later got annoyed at Death and erased it anyways).
  • 6th Sense: An ability he mysteriously gained one day; it allows Goku to see next moves of his opponent even if there's no future to look at, get a general grasp of his opponent's moves and sense people across impossible barriers under normal conditions.
  • Advanced Instant Transmission: Due to long-time usage of Instant Transmission, Goku has gained an extreme mastery of this ability. Able to be used without any hand gestures and only requiring that Goku knows where he wants to go. This is able to be used in order to traverse through time when used in conjunction with the 6th Sense.
  • Divine Mafuuba: An advanced version of the regular Mafuuba, Goku is able to seal anything inside its very own "Locked" Pocket Dimension. The only time it was used, it was able to completely and utterly seal away a Time Breaker Alternate-Universe Xeno Goku permanently despite his non-corporeality. This ability is also the only known move to get Genesis Beerus to talk about a mortal seriously.
  • Hakai: A technique learned from Whis and Beerus, Goku is the only mortal to get as close to as the real deal as possible. Although with a Charge-Up Time of 5 seconds, this technique is just as effective as a real Full-On God of Destruction's version.
  • Ultimate Mirror: An extremely advanced Godly-Ki Technique utilized by Whis. After several grueling millennia in a more advanced version of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Goku is able to attain this ability. This technique has the ultimate ability to reflect most attacks; Physical, Ki-Based, Reality-Based, Soul-Based, Time-Based, Void-Based, Intangible or Non-Corporeal, and much more with the only known attacks to bypass this being the Hakai of Gods of Destruction. This technique was apparently made by the Grand Priest.
  • Super Saiyan: A power-up transformation; it boosts his base power by 50x its normal abilities whilst also simultaneously granting Goku golden hair and blue pupils.
    • Super Saiyan 2: A further-enhanced state; it grants power 100x that of regular Super Saiyan and gives Goku a sparking, electric aura.
    • Super Saiyan 3: The result of a Saiyan unleashing their total primal abilities, this grants a multiplier of 400x that of Super Saiyan 2.
    • Super Saiyan 4: A result of fusing the Oozaru form with Super Saiyan yet retaining control, this form grants Goku a massive power increase of 1000x that of Super Saiyan 3.
    • Super Saiyan God: A form never shown to have, but implied. This state is unknown in strength but seems to grant Goku immeasurable power that easily outclasses Super Saiyan 4.
    • Super Saiyan Blue: A form he donned once (During his first encounter with Genesis Beerus). This form is said to surpass even that of Demigra with Toki Toki's Egg and is possibly the only form "Mega Max Fu" possibly fears from Xeno Goku.
  • Kaioken: An ability used to temporarily surpass one's limits. Xeno Goku has learned to harness this ability in conjunction with any of his transformations; granting him power never yet seen before.
    • Times 100: This is Goku's "Comfortable" multiplier where he can apply to any of his transformations. He can casually have conversations and live out his days whilst in this state.
    • Times 10 Million: Goku's upper maximum and only used when he really wants to kill. This multiplier is insane, allowing Goku to even outpace Concepts and leave his opponents in his dust within a single instant. Those who try to attack Goku whilst he's charging up for times 10 Million will find themselves incapable of getting close; with even the Max Power of Demigra being incapable of getting anywhere near Goku.
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Please tell me you're trolling right now... You have to be trolling. Almost everything here is basically made up even Super Saiyan multiplier.
 
@Quan Fine, I wont do it again. @Frantzy12 I dont know who claimed that, but that person for sure was either trolling or writting its own fanfiction with Xeno Goku. Probably both.
 
>Conceptual attacks >Temporal erasure

Its not real if theres "Dragon Ball"in it. The series never showed something like that.
 
Akreious said:
"Its not real if theres "Dragon Ball"in it."
... Wat
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He means there's absolutely no way Dragon Ball would ever do things like this.

They would never make a Destructo Disc that can cut concepts for example.
 
Just because something is strong doesn't make it bad or an abomination. Jumping to conclusions much?
XenoGokuWinsViaSpeedAndHax
Yeah. You heard me

Just because Dragon Ball is a normally underhaxed Verse doesn't suddenly make it bad when other verses, it's completely fine!
 
Lol @ those fanficky powers Goku has.
 
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