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Every piece of fiction with a mildly fast character is going to have a million plot holes, so there is no point in singling out one or two
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Why is Bayonetta MFTL+ if she needs a motocycle to be Superhuman/Subsonic speeds? (faster than cars)
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DivineAura44
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Just wanna bring this back up.
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Look, I know, but the point is, I had 0 knowledge in the verse outside of that scene, so, I was asking where does the ratings comes from, its pointless to mention things like that because it wont matter to someone who doesnt know about the verse
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With the exception Irenic never went full speed and Bayo cant reach irenic's maximum speed.
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efite im referring to ff7
dont make me nuke yakuza
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Cyber i understood the FF example. I just said it not the case here e.e.
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Valiant_Abyss
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Sounds fine to me
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So, I bought Bayonetta 1 (I pirated in uTorrent and I will play when it finished), I will check it by myself)
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So, if you have gotten your answer, should we close this thread?
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Wow how did i miss this thread
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I think KLOL hammered the nail in the thread, this is just a common trope in fiction and especially video games that authors often forget their protagonists are supposed to be these extremely powerful and/or ultra speedy characters.
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Shadow with his motorcycle yes
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Sonic characters also drive karts
Anyway, I think the question was answered. Does the OP have anymore?
Anyway, I think the question was answered. Does the OP have anymore?
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the point was the object that they use to move, but i asked the feat, as the motocycle thing was the only thing that i knew about it, but ty
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Sonic once use a car and a skateboard, don't remember him using a bike tho
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I think he was referring to Shadow
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Funny enough iirc the first vehicle Sonic canonically used is an aeroplane, he also uses cars, skateboards, snowboards, extreme gear (essentially flying boards), jet ski and more. I bet he doesn't have an official license for most of them tho.
As for the original topic of this thread, I honestly believe this a variation of the AoE fallacy but for speed rather than AP since fast characters often get tagged as well as perceived by significantly slower ones in fiction (MFTL+ reactions for Bulma?), characters often needing to travel across continental to universal sized maps via vehicles in videogames (despite having FTL or higher travel speed by themselves) and often there is no immediate environmental destruction caused by these characters using their superspeed, very few works of fiction have a in-verse explanation for this (e.g the Speed Force from DC).
Either way I didn't mean to continue this thread if it's already concluded, I just wanted to drop my two cent's into the matter since this subject gets brought up repeatedly in the Vs community (it's only a matter of time "when" not "if" another thread like this or something similar gets posted here).
As for the original topic of this thread, I honestly believe this a variation of the AoE fallacy but for speed rather than AP since fast characters often get tagged as well as perceived by significantly slower ones in fiction (MFTL+ reactions for Bulma?), characters often needing to travel across continental to universal sized maps via vehicles in videogames (despite having FTL or higher travel speed by themselves) and often there is no immediate environmental destruction caused by these characters using their superspeed, very few works of fiction have a in-verse explanation for this (e.g the Speed Force from DC).
Either way I didn't mean to continue this thread if it's already concluded, I just wanted to drop my two cent's into the matter since this subject gets brought up repeatedly in the Vs community (it's only a matter of time "when" not "if" another thread like this or something similar gets posted here).
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Its not due AoE fallacy, as I said, the motocycle thing was the only thing that i knew about the verse, I was asking where did the mftl+ comes from
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It comes from her being able to react to Irenic which has MFTL+ movement speed
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Does she have MFTL+ Travel Speed tho? That's a really important question because nothing I've seen so far has shown that. If she doesn't it might explain her motorcycle.
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She has MFTL travel speed, MFTL+ combat speed and reactions
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Now this is a lie bruh.
Can someone lock this? The OP's doubts has been cleared already
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LOL I ninja'd you on the 5-C Team Konohamaru part
Also yeah this should be closed, OP has been thoroughly answered.
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But yeah, I hope your question was answered fr. The jokes did get hilarious, though, ngl.
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Which is most probably due to that fact that Sasuke has no answer to the virus.How?
It's pretty damn clear that Boro is leagues below Delta never mind Koji or Code. You're taking it out of context.
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Can you take this argument to a wall? This should be closed.
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Yeah, it's high time this should be locked.
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do you think goku without training would somehow drop from MFTL (since this is before Gokus god ki amp) in the buu saga down to below super/transonic if he stopped training a little?
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Yes
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I'll go ahead and debunk other stuff if you are gonna make claims like this.
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Normal rock which was thrown by Krillin I think you forgot to add. You also forgot to show proof of how strong each of the weapons are but I'd love for you to prove the training was even the reason for any of this.
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I mean, its not even other stuff, the series shows it
Yeah. prove that Krillin was throwing it really hard or some crap, cuz it didnt seems like
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