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Why Dragon Ball Super characters such Frost, Piccolo and Caulifla are 3-A?
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Basically scaling to Base and SSJ Goku and Vegeta.
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This makes absolutely no sense. Goku in his base form is supposed to be equal to SSJG because he absorbed the power of SSJG. Then why on earth would Goku go SSJG in the Tournament of Power if his base is just as strong as SSJG? That doesn't even make sense. SSJG shouldn't even be a thing anymore if his base form is literally SSJG in terms of power. So he's 3-A in base, and now we can stack his SSJ forms on top of his 3-A base. Yet SSJG is still treated as stronger than any of the regular SSJ transformations in the Tournament of Power? That makes absolutely no sense.
Also, this implies that Beerus was using like 0.000001% of his power against Goku in the BoG saga, which is ridiculous.
And characters like Piccolo simply went up from 4-B to 3-A by doing like a year of training? Throughout the entirety of DBZ, Piccolo has been training. That's like a decade worth of training, and his tier doesn't change much. Then he does like one year of training and all of a sudden he's 3-A? No.
Most of these characters didn't even absorb God ki or anything like that, yet they just happen to be 3-A?
Also, this implies that Beerus was using like 0.000001% of his power against Goku in the BoG saga, which is ridiculous.
And characters like Piccolo simply went up from 4-B to 3-A by doing like a year of training? Throughout the entirety of DBZ, Piccolo has been training. That's like a decade worth of training, and his tier doesn't change much. Then he does like one year of training and all of a sudden he's 3-A? No.
Most of these characters didn't even absorb God ki or anything like that, yet they just happen to be 3-A?
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If you paid attention to the ToP you would know that SSG gives more speed then SS, it never said it was stronger. While Goku absorbed the power of SSG he didn't gain it's abilities like it's Regenerationn or it's natural Higher speed.
You must not have paid attention to Super, Gohan was only 4-B as Ultimate Gohan in the Buu Saga and that was his max but in like an hour Gohan can take on Goku in SS, SS2 and even SSB. They don't need to absorb God Ki, Frieza doesn't have God Ki but in 4 months boom 3-A, 17 doesn't have God Ki and next time we see him boom 3-A. Trunks goes to his timeline and next time we see him he can fight 3-A level opponents like SS2 Goku, Future Zamasu and Black before his rage power up. It's clear they increased the rate these characters actually grow.
You must not have paid attention to Super, Gohan was only 4-B as Ultimate Gohan in the Buu Saga and that was his max but in like an hour Gohan can take on Goku in SS, SS2 and even SSB. They don't need to absorb God Ki, Frieza doesn't have God Ki but in 4 months boom 3-A, 17 doesn't have God Ki and next time we see him boom 3-A. Trunks goes to his timeline and next time we see him he can fight 3-A level opponents like SS2 Goku, Future Zamasu and Black before his rage power up. It's clear they increased the rate these characters actually grow.
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They're right, you know. It's bull powerups, but those are common in fiction.
Granted, I do not agree with Piccolo's rating.
Granted, I do not agree with Piccolo's rating.
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So basically what you're saying is that base Goku absorbed the power of SSG, but not the speed? Are you kidding me? So he only absorbed the brute strength and ki output level of SSG? If then, base Goku should be getting blitzed all the time if he's not as fast as SSG. Furthermore, SSJ along with SSJ2 and SSJ3 are multipliers that increases not just strength, but also speed. So even after a 400x increase in speed, along with his already 3-A base, SSG is still faster? That's why he went SSG?LordGriffin1000 said:
Also, what you're saying is that SSG is equal to base form Goku, yet for some reason it's still faster than SSJ Goku despite the fact that SSJ Goku should be 50x faster. When Goku absorbed SSG, he was able to fight Beerus in base, meaning that his base form not only increased in strength, but also in speed. Otherwise, he would have gotten the living shit blitzed out of him, even if Beerus was only using 0.0000000001% of his power. Yet SSJ is supposed to be a 50x increase in strength and speed, and he's still slower than SSG? No.
SSG now has zero increase in strength but only an increase in speed? This doesn't make much sense.
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We do not use SSJ multipliers.
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Also why aren't you commenting on the actual revision thread?
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