Why does tiering system changed?

[Tdjwo]

Who's this guy?

 

[HakutoRei000]

Who said that I liked the old vs battles system? You're thinking for me. I've been making accusations specifically to the current tier 0. This is literally the biggest No Limits Fallacy I've ever seen. Ontology is just an ability, hax, it doesn't boost a character in any way in cosmology. Suggsverse characters literally mops the floor with your tier 0's and Suggsverse isn't even strongest verse

Bro out here acting like he just discovered “ontology” and now he’s the final boss of metaphysics .
Nobody said ontology = instant Tier 0. It’s not a power-up, it’s a state of existence. Tier 0 isn’t about flexing AP, it’s about being beyond the whole system that measures AP in the first place.

Calling it “just hax” is wild when the whole point is that they don’t even operate under your verse’s logic anymore.

And lmao “Suggsverse mops Tier 0”? Bro, Suggsverse is the NLF. “He transcends transcendence that transcends transcendence” — yeah okay Dr. Recursive . That verse reads like schizophrenia written in caps lock.

Cosmology stops mattering once you’re past scale. Infinite realms mean nothing if your top god is still part of the system. Tier 0s define that system — they’re above it.

Yeah, Tier 0 is bland. I don’t even like it that much either. But what did you expect, dawg? They’re the pinnacle. What, you want them boxing galaxies for fun?

 

[Robo432343]

dude go to r/powerscaling we dont want u here
(im making this face to u rn )

 

[Lycoris4812]

dude go to r/powerscaling we dont want u here

But then they ain't unique, you can find a dime a dozen of these people there.

 

[Robo432343]

But then they ain't unique, you can find a dime a dozen of these people there.

ngl r/powerscaling has a better tiering system than us

 

[Lycoris4812]

ngl r/powerscaling has a better tiering system than us

Yeah, everyone's favorite character can be H1-A, at a minimum, there.

 

[Re5yh]

Yeah, everyone's favorite character can be H1-A, at a minimum, there.

My favorite High 1-A+ boys are Lucifer from DC and Anu from TES

 

[Iiliminal]

give me likes pls im homeless

 

[Re5yh]

give me likes pls im homeless

alright, I will give you likes man

 

[HakutoRei000]

give me likes pls im homeless

'My mom kinda homeless'

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yeah, Tier 0 is bland. I don’t even like it that much either. But what did you expect, dawg? They’re the pinnacle. What, you want them boxing galaxies for fun?

They should have at least 5 page of giant complex mathematical yappery and explicit statements from the tiering system itself to be Tier 0

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

And that's why everything above tier 5 sucks

 

[Arkenis]

just make a crt man

 

[HakutoRei000]

And that's why everything above tier 5 sucks

Personally i like low tier with many hax thats fun.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

And that's why everything above tier 5 sucks

 

[Vietthai96]

If no one have issues, i will close this thread since the question was pretty much answered

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Either bro a ragebait or coping.

Anyways here's your yappucino order.

Bro, the whole “VS Battle Wiki is ruined because Tier 0 changed” take is just you discovering that cosmology ≠ raw transcendence and having an existential crisis over it . Like yeah, we get it, you miss the 2019 “how many universes you got?” era, but that’s not depth, that’s just power-scaling Minecraft biomes.

The tiering system changed because people finally realized that just saying “our verse has 16 dimensions and a Void beyond” doesn’t actually make a character boundless — it just makes your cosmology large, not transcendent. Tier 0 isn’t about size, it’s about conceptual finality. That’s why “indescribability” isn’t the reason someone is Tier 0 — it’s a symptom of existing beyond any possible system of definition, including metaphysical frameworks, laws, or logic themselves. That’s a qualitative leap, not a quantitative one.

And saying “cosmology is better than ontology” is like saying the color of a car is more important than whether it has an engine. A big cosmology means nothing if your gods are still part of that system instead of beyond it. You can’t climb to Tier 0 by stacking multiverses like Lego; you’re just inflating scope. That’s literally the No Limits Fallacy — pretending infinity scaling somehow breaks conceptual hierarchy.

And yeah, I know Tier 0 feels bland now — I don’t even fully like it either. But what did you expect from beings that literally represent the pinnacle of that fiction? You want them to start throwing hands with galaxies or something? They’re the endpoint, not the playground.

So nah, Tier 0 isn’t ruined — it’s just cleaner, more consistent, and less of a sandbox for people who think “bigger number = higher tier.” VS Battles moved on. You didn’t.

Also ofc you can, create CRT then improve what you think is missing or not good enough.

peace out.

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[AthelChan]

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