Why do you think Adam Smasher survived the nuclear explosion?

[Minos_the_Judge]

Where does this information come from that the body was not injured? I can't find the source anywhere.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Late response, but the assumption isn't that his body was uninjured but that the explosion just failed to kill him, which requires that level of durability ('Survived' vs 'Tanked' or 'Uninjured by').

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Late response, but the assumption isn't that his body was uninjured but that the explosion just failed to kill him, which requires that level of durability ('Survived' vs 'Tanked' or 'Uninjured by').

What if he was torn apart, leaving only his head or something? What if his condition was so critical that he doesn't even scale to 1/10th that power? His profile scales his AP to his Durability, but we don't know his post-explosion state, so we can't say his hit can do the same damage.

 

[Qawsedf234]

What if he was torn apart, leaving only his head or something

Shaitan survived while just being a brain casing from the explosion and Blackhand also lived without being gored. So I don't think either was reduced to body chunks.

What if his condition was so critical that he doesn't even scale to 1/10th that power?

Because Blackhand also lived without being extracted by Militech. So Smasher likely wasn't reduced to an inoperable state.

The anti-feats imo would be the armor rating vs weapon fire and how it can be damaged by weaker guns rather than if they lived through the nuke or not.

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Blackhand also lived without being gored

He really survived?

In any case, perhaps they suffered greatly and received some injuries that they, say, could not inflict on each other in one blow, we do not know for sure. I don't think it would be legal to scale Adam to a fraction of the energy of the nuclear explosion that disabled him. After all, he cannot incapacitate himself with a blow.

 

[Qawsedf234]

He really survived?

Yeah, Mike P. has stated that he lived and 2077 hints that he's alive as well.

perhaps they suffered greatly and received some injuries that they, say, could not inflict on each other in one blow, we do not know for sure.

Just being able to injure the other or chip their armor would let them downscale. Like how Iron Man downscale from Thanos in the MCU.

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Yeah, Mike P. has stated that he lived and 2077 hints that he's alive as well.


Just being able to injure the other or chip their armor would let them downscale. Like how Iron Man downscale from Thanos in the MCU.

No. It is quite possible that they suffered much more than they could harm themselves with a blow, the difference may not even be several times.

 

[Qawsedf234]

It is quite possible that they suffered much more than they could harm themselves with a blow,

Like I said, they don't need to cause equalivent damage to downscale from the feat. Just being able to damage the other would be enough to warrant the rating.

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Like I said, they don't need to cause equalivent damage to downscale from the feat. Just being able to damage the other would be enough to warrant the rating.

Once I fell from the second floor, it was painful, but I survived and was not torn to pieces, I could even get up. This is about 500 joules. But if someone hurts me with a blow, then it’s not a fact that he will be higher than 10-B.

In this analogy, the damage from the explosion might not be enough to blow them apart, but it would be enough to cause them significant damage.

 

[Qawsedf234]

In this analogy, the damage from the explosion might not be enough to blow them apart, but it would be enough to cause them significant damage.

Sure I agree to that, but it would still make them 9-A for being to harm the other. It's the policy we use regarding how we Powerscale

Character A performs a feat of destroying a city and has City level durability. Character B lost a fight to Character A, yet still put up a considerable struggle, was able to harm Character A, and made Character A exert significant effort to defeat Character B. In this case, it's safe to assess that Character B also has City level Attack Potency and Durability.

• In this case, due to the massive broadness of tiers, even if there is a clear power gap between two characters, it typically cannot be a big enough gap that they're tiers apart if they can have an actual fight with someone. For example, a Small Planet level character would never be able to harm or do anything to a Large Planet level character, as the gap between the two tiers is nearly 30 million times. As such, even if a character overall lost to a Large Planet level character, if they were able to cause considerable harm to and hold their own against that person, they'd also have to be Large Planet level, though on a lesser extent than whoever they lost to.

The gap between Smasher's rated durability and baseline 9-A is 42x. So they can be 9-A while being weaker than their durability ratings.

If you want to change it I'd probably just looks some of the weapons in the Heavy Metal supplement and compare it to the Dai-Oni body. That's probably more realistic about what their durability is like.

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

The gap between Smasher's rated durability and baseline 9-A is 42x. So they can be 9-A while being weaker than their durability ratings.

If you want to change it I'd probably just looks some of the weapons in the Heavy Metal supplement and compare it to the Dai-Oni body. That's probably more realistic about what their durability is like.

I mean, 9-A is good enouth, but not 9-A+ like now

 

[Karllkraft]

Cesedin yaralanmadığına dair bu bilgi nereden geliyor? Kaynağını hiçbir yerde bulamıyorum.

Can you elaborate on the subject?

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Can you elaborate on the subject?

In Adam's profile, his AP scales to durability, due to the fact that he is believed to have easily survived a nuclear explosion, to the point that he can inflict comparable damage to characters with the same durability with a blow. But we have no evidence for this. The profiles are just guessing, they came up with it themselves, we don’t have proofs.