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Who can defeat the Thought Robot?

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Is there any character from DC or Marvel that can defeat the Thought Robot Superman other than TOAA, Primal Monitor & The Presence? Isn't his Plot Manipulation supposed to make him invincible?

CosmicArmor
 
a ray with the warmth of ten billion just hurts him a lot.

this type of beam does not destroy even a galaxy. Always if ten billion suns is not a simple hyperbole.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Thought Robot is tier 1-B
Vertigo characters and Abstract level characters are High 1-B - 1-A
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but neither of them is really.Micheal only created a universe. None of the two is beyond time. Morpheus, in sandman overture, is trapped in a black hole.
 
Cosmic armor superman exist outside the dc multiverse, so he is like a beyonder like character, he is bigger than the dc multiverse. I think he can adapt to his enemies & can only be beaten with a better plot
 
WeeklyBattles said:
All of their approved ratings say otherwise, i suggest you check the profiles.
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Well Flash is 4-C yet he beats characters as strong as Pre crisis superman (Low 2-C). I'm talking about characters that has enough hax to beat stronger opponents
 
PC Supes is only Low 2-C with the Sword of Superman, which i dont think Flash has fought him with. PC Superman without it is only 3-A but thats not the point. Flash vs Supes is one character winning due to hax and speed when fighting another 3-D character, Thought Robot vs any of the characters i listed is literally Thought Robot vs characters who are literally infinite degrees of infinitely stronger than him. Thought Robot is only 196,833 dimensional, all of the characters i stated as being able to beat him are either infinite-dimensional beings or beyond the concept of dimensions althgether.
 
Well Thought Robot is the strongest 1-B. So I doubt you'll find a stronger Marvel/DC characters without them being a whole tier higher (High 1-B and above).
 
Thought Robot

Any of these characters would beat him:

Marvel:

Pre-Retcon Beyonder

Original Living Tribunal

Multi-Eternity

God Emperor Doom

Thanos with the Heart of the Universe

Ascended Chaos King

True Oblivio

The True Beyonders

Pre-Retcon and Post-Beyonders Retcon Molecule Ma

Multiversal Lord Chaos

The Protege

Multiversal Death

Multiversal Infinity

Multiversal Master Order

Multiversal In-Betweener

Pre-Retcon Brothers Yin and Yang

DC/Vertigo:

World Tree Swamp Thing with the Green Absorbed

Lucifer Morningstar

Death of the Endless

Michael Demiurgos

Pralaya

The Great Evil Beast

Dunamis Demiurgos and Godhood Elaine Belloc

The Source

Destiny of the Endless

Mother Night

Dream of the Endless

Desire of the Endless

Destruction of the Endless

Father Time

Delirium of the Endless

Despair of the Endless

Gabriel Hornblower

Mazikee
 
Joemontana9 said:
WeeklyBattles said:
Thought Robot is tier 1-B
Vertigo characters and Abstract level characters are High 1-B - 1-A
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but neither of them is really.Micheal only created a universe. None of the two is beyond time.
Morpheus, in sandman overture, is trapped in a black hole.
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A portion of Dream's power was used to create infinite universes also Morpheus is the one who defeated the Ultimator

Lucifer collapsed the Mansion of Silence which contained countless creations and one shot the Logos, The Voice of God that created the Word and Multiverse

That black hole isnt an ordinary black hole, Morpheus was sent there by stars that live in a place that was describe as above the real and black holes are connected to the realm of Mother Night

Lucifer created a totality which Mike Carey said includes multiplicity, Lucifer also created it in The Void, a place beyond every definition of time and space.Which means that Lucifer created the concepts of time and space from scratch and Michaels demiurgic power which was explicitly stated to be the only power that can create a cosmos in The Void, created space and time in a dimensionless space beyond time and space
 
Higher-dimensional beings can negate lower-dimensional high-godly Regenerationn.
 
@WeeklyBattles Didn't the source was defeated by soulfire darkseid? Who's considerably weaker than CA Superman. Also The Living Tribunal despite being the second to TOAA got killed by the beyonders
 
I'm not knowledgeable on DC or Marvel like...at all, but from what i recall that was a much, much weaker incarnation of the Source. And according to their profiles both TLT and the Beyonders have forms that are on the same level (High 1-B) so i guess that makes sense...? A High 1-B would be able to kill another High 1-B. Im just going off their profiles, and every character listed is ranked higher than the Though Robot by a considerable amount.
 
Yep

Oblivion > our world > plot of the story > anything in the story
 
That's nonsensical though placing a fictional character above reality. In ''reality'' Oblivion is a fictional character bound to the plot which is written and drawn.
 
DocAnimeTheory said:
That's nonsensical though placing a fictional character above reality though. In reality Oblivion is a fictional character bound to the plot which is written and drawn.
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They're joking, you know.
 
It really doesn't matter if Oblivion was infinity^infinity^... infinite more times stronger than Thought Robot, Oblivion is ultimately bound to the plot which Thought Robot can control.
 
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