Who can defeat Elaine Belloc?

[ColtonTheOmniProjection]

Which characters can defeat Elaine Belloc at her absolute strongest (Meaning her at 1-A, when she replaced The Presence).

 

[Confluctor]

Probably everyone from Cthulhu Mythos. Also, other tier 0 and High 1A characters. There are a few dozen of them.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Anyone who is higher than her in 1A.

SCP 3812 is one of them, and all of umineko dudes.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Which characters can defeat Elaine Belloc at her absolute strongest (Meaning her at 1-A, when she replaced The Presence).

Saitama

Saitama is a human from Z-City who; through rigorous (sort of) training broke through his human limiters and achieved unbelievable strength and abilities. Never breaking a sweat, the name One Punch Man is fitting for the effortless wins Saitama has achieved through the series. Never going beyond...

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[Catzlaflame]

All umineko guys, the one giver, basically anyone higher into 1-A

 

[ColtonTheOmniProjection]

Saitama

Saitama is a human from Z-City who; through rigorous (sort of) training broke through his human limiters and achieved unbelievable strength and abilities. Never breaking a sweat, the name One Punch Man is fitting for the effortless wins Saitama has achieved through the series. Never going beyond...

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07th Expansion Series

For detailed information about this series, visit the 07th Expansion Wiki. 07th Expansion is a series of visual novels, manga, and audio drama CDs, created by Ryukishi07 and 07th Expansion. There are 3 main entries which together comprise the When They Cry (no Naku Koro Ni) series: Higurashi no...

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Why was Saitama Tier 0?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Why was Saitama Tier 0?

Because why he wont be?

 

[ColtonTheOmniProjection]

In case i saw the date. Saitama is not Tier 0 because you forgot to remove his weaknesses. A Tier 0 can’t have weaknesses.

 

[Bernkastelll]

In case i saw the date. Saitama is not Tier 0 because you forgot to remove his weaknesses. A Tier 0 can’t have weaknesses.

Thats wrong, Tier 0 doesnt means ''No weakness'', where did u got that from? LOL

 

[ColtonTheOmniProjection]

If a being is Tier 0 it doesn’t have weaknesses, it’s supposed to be supreme and above all if you have weaknesses your not above all.

 

[Bernkastelll]

If a being is Tier 0 it doesn’t have weaknesses it’s supposed to be supreme and above all if you have weaknesses your not above all.

thats wrong, tier 0 is not ''Omnipotent'', it just means that u transcend an infinite layered hierarchy of High 1-A, look at Maria Ushiromiya, she has literally a lot of weakness

Maria Ushiromiya

"Just as a form can be a vessel, a name can be a powerful vessel too. For unknown creatures of the other world, simply gaining a name can greatly increase their magical power...!! That's why names are important. Uu-!" The Witch of Origins, who will live for one thousand years in the future. She...

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[ColtonTheOmniProjection]

Those should only apply to her lower tier, if she has weaknesses in her Tier 0 then she just isn’t Tier 0. Also Maria has potential to become Tier 0, not that she is currently Tier 0.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Those should only apply to her lower tier, if she has weaknesses in her Tier 0 then she just isn’t Tier 0.

Thats not how tier 0 works, and no, it applies to all her keys, tier 0 just means that u transcend an infinite hierarchy of High 1-A, it doesnt envolve ''having weakness or not''

 

[ColtonTheOmniProjection]

Then all Tier 0’s might as well be High 1-A. Tier 0’s don’t have weaknesses, it goes against the law that a supreme being exists in a verse if a Tier 0 has weaknesses then it’s not supreme.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Then all Tier 0’s might as well be High 1-A. Tier 0’s don’t have weaknesses, it goes against the law that a supreme being exists in a verse if a Tier 0 has weaknesses then it’s not supreme.

Dude, thats not how the tiering system works, omg, where did u got that Tier 0 have no weakness?

go read this

Tiering System

The following is a comprehensive overview of the hierarchical system which this wiki utilizes in order to properly categorize and index fictional characters, entities, and objects based on the scale of their feats, and the varying scopes which they can affect or create/destroy. However, it...

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[Bernkastelll]

Also, tier 0 doesnt even need to be the supreme being, if the verse has enough hierarchies, even fodder animals can be tier 0

 

[ColtonTheOmniProjection]

You clearly don’t have a good understanding on the standards of Fiction. Wasting my time is useless. You can’t have multiple Tier 0’s per verse that literally breaks the laws of Fiction, of having a supreme being overseeing it’s creations, if multiple deities in Fiction were Tier 0 then were they ever supreme to begin with.

 

[Bernkastelll]

You clearly don’t have a good understanding on the standards of Fiction. Wasting my time is useless.

There is literally no standard in fiction, and we are in VS battles, using the Tiering System, tier 0 doesnt means No Weakness, it just means an inacessible transcendence above High 1-A, even an brainless immobile bunch of sponge can be tier 0 if he transcend an infinite hierarchy of High 1-A

 

[Ailamiona]

Or you just don't want to acknowledge how tier 0 works

 

[Shyouu]

funny

 

[deonment]

You clearly don’t have a good understanding on the standards of Fiction. Wasting my time is useless. You can’t have multiple Tier 0’s per verse that literally breaks the laws of Fiction, of having a supreme being overseeing it’s creations, if multiple deities in Ficition were Tier 0 then were they ever supreme to begin with.

Look at Twin Peaks and Cuthulu Mythos for a bit

 

[Ailamiona]

There is literally no standard in fiction, and we are in VS battles, using the Tiering System, tier 0 doesnt means No Weakness, it just means an inacessible transcendence above High 1-A, even an brainless immobile bunch of sponge can be tier 0 if he transcend an infinite hierarchy of High 1-A

Tier 0 Spongebob? Hmmmmm

 

[Bernkastelll]

You can’t have multiple Tier 0’s per verse that literally breaks the laws of Fiction, of having a supreme being overseeing it’s creations, if multiple deities in Ficition were Tier 0 then were they ever supreme to begin with.

Yes u can, tier 0 doesnt means supreme being, it means that u transcend an infinite hierarchy of High 1-A in simple words, how does it break the laws of fiction? Fiction has no laws

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

You can’t have multiple Tier 0’s per verse

Have you checked our Cthulhu Mythos profiles? Dozens of tier 0s

 

[Ailamiona]

Guys don't tell him about umineko

 

[Panpanpanjeidj]

Lol saitama is not tier 0

Saitama

Saitama is a human from Z-City who; through rigorous (sort of) training broke through his human limiters and achieved unbelievable strength and abilities. Never breaking a sweat, the name One Punch Man is fitting for the effortless wins Saitama has achieved through the series. Never going beyond...

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It's just a joke.

 

[Bernkastelll]

It's just a joke.

 

[PsychoWarper]

This guy,

Gilgamesh (The Unwritten)

I am Gilgamesh, gods, and it takes more than water to end me. I am Gilgamesh, alike in the storm, and in the silence. I do the work that is before me. Gilgamesh is the historical king of the Sumerian city-state of Uruk, a major hero in ancient Mesopotamian mythology, and the protagonist of the...

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[Catzlaflame]

Why was Saitama Tier 0?

Here’s the reason: https://gyazo.com/a8000f509388bdb46627b02cbd05ac75

 

[Catzlaflame]

Those should only apply to her lower tier, if she has weaknesses in her Tier 0 then she just isn’t Tier 0. Also Maria has potential to become Tier 0, not that she is currently Tier 0.

saying a character has no weaknesses is so fallacious and paradoxical Maria doesn’t have the potential to become a creator, she’s capable of the same feats cus she made the soul of her bear doll forgot it’s name, another example is yog sothoth he exists in the dream of azathoth but he’s still tier 0,

 

[QuasiYuri]

, another example is yog sothoth he exists in the dream of azathoth but he’s still tier 0,

This was litteraly the very first thing debunked in CM revisions.

 

[Antvasima]

I was asked by the OP to close this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

For the record, Saitama was only tier 0 on April 1st. It was a dumb joke of ours.