White vs Black | Youmu Konpaku vs Goku Black

[REX9097]

• Speed was equalized
• Fight takes place at empty city
• Starting Distance: 20m
• SBA for the rest
• Notes: Goku Black has the scythe. Also statistic amplication that can increase his speed level.

Youmu Konpaku:
Goku Black:
Incon:

 

[Fezzih_007]

Goku Black gets one-shoted due to Touhou scaling to 100+ universes and is a stomp;

Close please;

 

[Deidalius]

Isn't Goku black immortal because of his time ring or something? Youmu might have to take it off to kill Goku Black

 

[StrymULTRA]

Isn't Goku black immortal because of his time ring or something?

This isn't Death Battle. That thing only grants him immunity to paradoxes such as being killed in the past.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Youmu scale to more universes than Black, Youmu sends a burst of danmaku to Black and it only takes one touch for him to be defeated, and absorbs his soul

this is a stomp

 

[CelestialVortex01]

What's with the dragon ball matchups these days?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Youmu scale to more universes than Black, Youmu sends a burst of danmaku to Black and it only takes one touch for him to be defeated, and absorbs his soul

this is a stomp

Goku Black can dura neg with his scythe

 

[Deidalius]

This isn't Death Battle. That thing only grants him immunity to paradoxes such as being killed in the past.

wtf did Death Battle lied to me????

 

[Deidalius]

Goku Black can dura neg with his scythe

If he can negate durability with his scythe, both can one shot each other, so this battle is fair.

 

[StrymULTRA]

wtf did Death Battle lied to me????

Pretty much, yes.

There's a reason why Zamasu (basically a fusion form of Black) didn't pull that after being killed.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Goku Black can dura neg with his scythe

If he can negate durability with his scythe, both can one shot each other, so this battle is fair.

He does not use it ic, he'd have killed Goku instantly otherwise.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

If he can negate durability with his scythe, both can one shot each other, so this battle is fair.

Yeah

He does not use it ic, he'd have killed Goku instantly otherwise.

Didn't the OP gave him the scythe to start the fight?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Didn't the OP gave him the scythe to start the fight?

Then OP is wrong as the scythe isn't something he uses offensively.

 

[REX9097]

He does not use it ic, he'd have killed Goku instantly otherwise.

Space-Time Manipulation, Portal Creation & Possibly Durability Negation (Using a scythe, he can cut through space-time[6] to create rifts)

 

[StrymULTRA]

Being on profile =/= being something he uses in fights.

We index everything a character does, not just what they use IC.

 

[Deidalius]

I mean, if Goku Black starts with the scythe, he's probably going to use it once he sees his other attacks do no damage.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I mean, if Goku Black starts with the scythe, he's probably going to use it once he sees his other attacks do no damage.

Dragon Ball characters tend to be super stubborn and spam the same stuff (but with more ki) if the first attacks don't work.

Aka... nah. We don't even see him attempting to cut Goku/Vegeta with that, ever.

 

[CelestialVortex01]

Being on profile =/= being something he uses in fights.

We index everything a character does, not just what they use IC.

Goku Black's intention was to hit vegeta with the sycthe but vegeta dodged it, so it is combat appicable.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

White vs Black​

 

[StrymULTRA]

Goku Black's intention was to hit vegeta with the sycthe but vegeta dodged it, so it is combat applicable

Forgor.

Still, he won't pull a Janemba as it just made a warp in space-time, and if characters like Vegeta were able to dodge it, then Youmu, someone who is trained to dodge super intense danmaku all the time, will have 0 issues in doing so as well.

Aka voting her for being able to reliably one shot faster with her own danmaku.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Goku Black have actually zero wincons, I gonna ask to close this.

 

[Deidalius]

Goku Black have actually zero wincons, I gonna ask to close this.

Goku Black can slice Youmu with his scythe and one shot her. The issue is if he would do that and what could Youmu do to avoid that.

 

[Quibster]

Youmu oneshots and haxstomps here

 

[Fezzih_007]

Goku Black can slice Youmu with his scythe and one shot her.

Youma can super easy dodge that, so no he can't.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Youmu can dodge danmaku too intense, dodging Black won't be a problem

 

[Deidalius]

Youma can super easy dodge that, so no he can't.

Not if Goku Black gets speed amps

 

[Speedblitzer50]

The fairest thing is that Black starts in his base state, and even if he tries to transform, during that small transformation time it is enough for a single danmaku to have touched him.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Not if Goku Black gets speed amps

Right, he start in base form
I guess he can win then by blitzing Youmu.

 

[Deidalius]

What if Goku black senses Youmu can one shot him and plans accordingly? He probably could because he can sense ki, right?

Also, I am sure Goku black could start spamming clones to deal with the danmaku and buy enough time to get a speed amp.

 

[Quibster]

Touhou's energy system ****s over Black hard here.

Youmu opens with Danmaku, and the moment Black gets hit he's getting his Ki and Stamina drained. She is verry much going to take advantage of this and fly after him with Danmaku spam and soulhax sword slashes.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Right, he start in base form
I guess he can win then by blitzing Youmu.

Well actually

Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles.

• As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
• Matches in which characters with Immeasurable speed lose against non-immeasurable passive abilities would likewise not be added, as the Immeasurable characters would normally be faster than the instantaneous passives.

He can't do that actually due to the rules of speed equalization, since Youmu have infite speed and Goku Black don't (Not yet atleast)

 

[StrymULTRA]

Youmu can dodge danmaku too intense, dodging Black won't be a problem

He starts already as Rosé, he can't get faster.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Youma can super easy dodge that, so no he can't.

Is Youma even skilled enough to fight him?

 

[Deidalius]

Well actually

He can't do that actually due to the rules of speed equalization, since Youmu have infite speed and Goku Black don't (Not yet atleast)

Goku black is cooked

 

[Quibster]

Is Youma even skilled enough to fight him?

If you discount the Danmaku, she's an expert swordsman that has fought and defeated other high tiers in her verse.

 

[Topaz404]

when will people figure out that Touhou almost always stomps DB

ahem, anyways
Yeah this is a stomp for Youmu through and through, all she has to do is stab Goku Black once and he's cooked.

 

[Deidalius]

Touhou's energy system ****s over Black hard here.

Youmu opens with Danmaku, and the moment Black gets hit he's getting his Ki and Stamina drained. She is verry much going to take advantage of this and fly after him with Danmaku spam and soulhax sword slashes.

(If Goku Black gets hit by those danmaku bullets, he is cooked)

He starts already as Rosé, he can't get faster.

It's looking rough for Goku Black

What if Goku black starts summoning minions to deal with Youmu's danmaku? Would that help?

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Crimson Masked Saiyan slams Touhou, so don't worry if Youmu beats DBS Goku Black lol

 

[Deidalius]

~~That's cope.~~

 

[Fezzih_007]

What if Goku black starts summoning minions to deal with Youmu's danmaku? Would that help?

No.

Actually, change the opponent to this guy, I gonna be more fair.