• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

What Would Being Dimensionless Grant?

Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara

Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara

She/Her
9,828
12,447
If a character is unbound from dimensions on a conceptual level, what would this grant? Could it be used for tiering, or just something like BDE?
 
The answer is no. Touhou does not remotely qualify for 1-A or any Tier 1 stuff.

Nevermind that "unbound by dimensions" by itself means nothing. You'll only be unbound by the dimensions shown in the verse. And "unbound by" doesn't mean "entirely transcend and is infinitely greater than". At best it'd be BDE but it's not an entirely useful version here.
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
The answer is no. Touhou does not remotely qualify for 1-A or any Tier 1 stuff.

Nevermind that "unbound by dimensions" by itself means nothing. You'll only be unbound by the dimensions shown in the verse. And "unbound by" doesn't mean "entirely transcend and is infinitely greater than". At best it'd be BDE but it's not an entirely useful version here.
Click to expand...
I uh

Never mentioned Touhou

Might wanna fix whatever form of brainrot you've got going on, this is honestly a little pathetic.
 
If you mean they are unbound by the verse's conventional dimensions, then that seems like some form of Beyond-Dimensional Existence, yes.

If you mean they literally possess zero dimensions, then that's actual Zero-Dimensionality. Which is a thing. Somehow.
 
azontr said:
If you mean they are unbound by the verse's conventional dimensions, then that seems like some form of Beyond-Dimensional Existence, yes.

If you mean they literally possess zero dimensions, then that's actual Zero-Dimensionality. Which is a thing. Somehow.
Click to expand...
Which type of BDE would it be? Is this something that'd also be evidence of something like transduality or acausality (besides type 1, I mean)?

I also didn't know zero-dimensionality was a thing, literally 4 users on the entire wiki lmao
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Which type of BDE would it be? Is this something that'd also be evidence of something like transduality or acausality (besides type 1, I mean)?
Click to expand...
In terms of type, it'd probably be Type 1.

A quick glance at the BDE page tells me that to qualify for Type 2 the character would need to explicitly be beyond and "surpass" the boundaries of their verse's dimensions, not simply being outside of the normal spatiotemporal boundaries, which is what qualifies for Type 1.

So unless you have scans or anything that elaborates on the transcendence/unboundness(I know it's not a word) of the character your talking about, it'd probably just be cookie cutter Type 1 BDE.

And no for Transdual and Acausal bullshit you'd need to elaborate on how the character really interacts with and is unbound by their "dimensions". You can't get anything else really without further elaboration on the relationship between the character and dimensions.

I hope my answer helped.
 
Yeah, this helped a lot, thanks. Though the acausality stuff confuses me since it specifies BDE type 1 grants acausality type 1, shouldn't it be type 4?
 
Girl idfk lmao, the page doesn't even elaborate on how being outside of time grants Acausality Type 1 and just says it does, so I feel as though the BDE page needs some revisions tbh.
 
azontr said:
Monarch of Pointland is an actual zero-dimensional point.

Being simply unbound by dimensions doesn't mean you have actual 0 dimensions, that'd need to be specified in-verse lol.
Click to expand...
I mean zero is like nothing. I don't recall dimensionless =0.0000001 dimensions
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
The answer is no. Touhou does not remotely qualify for 1-A or any Tier 1 stuff.
Click to expand...
Well. If op is indeed gunning for 1A, and wants to skip the infinite dimensions fluff, this might help. This is from Ultima yesterday

Being above dimensional space on its own is generally not really enough, just like being "beyond space-time" (Even in the superiority sense) isn't, since statements of that sort can just as well refer to the dimensions existing in the cosmology. Getting 1-A from that sort of statement would be feasible if being "beyond dimensions" was treated as something fundamentally above higher-dimensionality in general, though, and thus above the difference between n dimensions and n+1 dimensions.
Click to expand...
So there's that
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
If a character is unbound from dimensions on a conceptual level, what would this grant? Could it be used for tiering, or just something like BDE?
Click to expand...
BDE 1. Superiority over dimensions in the verse is type 2.

More context is needed and a lot of evidence to qualify for 1A
 
Also guys I already answered the questions you don't have to keep responding. 😭
azontr said:
In terms of type, it'd probably be Type 1.

A quick glance at the BDE page tells me that to qualify for Type 2 the character would need to explicitly be beyond and "surpass" the boundaries of their verse's dimensions, not simply being outside of the normal spatiotemporal boundaries, which is what qualifies for Type 1.

So unless you have scans or anything that elaborates on the transcendence/unboundness(I know it's not a word) of the character your talking about, it'd probably just be cookie cutter Type 1 BDE.

And no for Transdual and Acausal bullshit you'd need to elaborate on how the character really interacts with and is unbound by their "dimensions". You can't get anything else really without further elaboration on the relationship between the character and dimensions.

I hope my answer helped.
Click to expand...
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
I uh

Never mentioned Touhou

Might wanna fix whatever form of brainrot you've got going on, this is honestly a little pathetic.
Click to expand...
I was just checking the report queue, and this does come off as quite rude. Please do not make commentary joke or not about brain damage.

Thank you.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
I was just checking the report queue, and this does come off as quite rude. Please do not make commentary joke or not about brain damage.

Thank you.
Click to expand...
Yeah well

I don't particularly appreciate being unable to ask questions for the sake of curiosity without people going "wank?? you're wanking Touhou?? is this for Touhou?? you know this won't upgrade Touhou, right??". I know I've made one verse the cornerstone of my contributions here but it's ******* obnoxious how I'm apparently unable to do anything beyond that.
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Yeah well

I don't particularly appreciate being unable to ask questions for the sake of curiosity without people going "wank?? you're wanking Touhou?? is this for Touhou?? you know this won't upgrade Touhou, right??". I know I've made one verse the cornerstone of my contributions here but it's ******* obnoxious how I'm apparently unable to do anything beyond that.
Click to expand...
TW: Discussion of ableism and brain injury
While I do think Saikou jumped the gun on assuming you are trying to upgrade Touhou when you could be just asking for general clarifications (or trying to upgrade a completely different verse), your comment concerning brain damage did come off as ableism and probably shouldn't be spoken for the sake of disabled people and/or those who suffered actual brain injury.

Anyway, from the looks of things it seems to just be plain BDE Type 2 as you said they are unbound from dimensions on a conceptual level so it cannot be Zero-Dimensionality. Also yes, they likely would have Acausality Type 1 and/or 4 depending on context.
 
Last edited:
Should probably also clarify that brainrot isn't something I correlate with actual, genuine brain damage or mental illness. I've always used it to refer to something all-consuming, like me having Touhou brainrot. Apologies if it came off as insulting mental illness, when that was never my intent. I just think Saikou's focus on looking for Touhou wank where there isn't any is a little absurd and kinda ******* obnoxious.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

CNBA3
What does 4-D beings qualify as?
Replies
5
Views
436
Digital_Franz
Digital_Franz
Lloydblitzed
Does destroying a infinite Universe grant Infinite Attack Speed?
Replies
2
Views
665
Lloydblitzed
Lloydblitzed
DimeUhDozen
What Would This Grant?
Replies
1
Views
595
Samael_010
Samael_010
Requiem_Yoriichi
Does Qualitative Superiority grant Immeasurable Speed?
Replies
2
Views
968
Requiem_Yoriichi
Requiem_Yoriichi
Rutæhh
Quick Question
Replies
2
Views
709
Benimōru
Benimōru
Back
Top