What would be Demonbane's tier based on this?

[Mugen_no_Setsuna]

Why do u decide to use Jin's tweet ? A lot of his tweet even raises more question and contracdiction

A lot, not every tweet tho? Some of them are clearly trolling since he got bothered by bunch of peeps asking him about feats. Especially in English because he admitted that his English is broken back then.

 

[ZwartD]

So in the recent tweets, Jin finally admitted that elder god demonbane actually exists, while this version of Demonbane isn't as strong as people think, we have a new scaling from this.
Elder God Demonbane/Transcendent Demonbane without Trinity(aka pilotless)< Nyar's Avatar ~= Demonbane Two swords(also without trinity) (Nyar somehow interfered with EGD on its way bringing Kuzaku back to the human world and turned it into Demonbane Two Swords, one of Nyar's avatars) < ClockWork Phantom = An all-encompassing mechanical universe < Clockwork Final ~= also one of Nyar's avatar < Awakened Demonbane 2 Swords(Also called TRUE elder god Demonbane 2 swords in its CG) < Elder Gods ~ Outer Gods
Note that this is not the entire scaling.

 

[Mugen_no_Setsuna]

Thread

Please note that the one who asked and started it all is a Japanese friend of mine, we have discussed and came up with the idea that asking Jin-sensei for confirmation regarding the details from Zanma Taisei retold.

Will cover this in my respect thread soon, but like ZwartD said.

Elder God Demonbane without Trinity aka his pilots is very vulnerable and can be targeted by Nyarlathotep. Jin-sensei further confirmed that Two-Sword is actually Elder God Demonbane BUT has been hijacked and corrupted. This happens when EGD was carrying infant Kuzaku to the human world, somehow Nyar found him and the rest is history.

 

[zero0031]

So in the recent tweets, Jin finally admitted that elder god demonbane actually exists

sheeeeeeeessssshhhhhh, it's crazy bro
nothing beats words of god

while this version of Demonbane isn't as strong as people think, we have a new scaling from this.

well considering what OP said about "elder gods roughly equal to outer gods" and whats said in the fairy tail this is not surprising

Elder God Demonbane/Transcendent Demonbane without Trinity(aka pilotless)< Nyar's Avatar ~= Demonbane Two swords(also without trinity) (Nyar somehow interfered with EGD on its way bringing Kuzaku back to the human world and turned it into Demonbane Two Swords, one of Nyar's avatars) < ClockWork Phantom = An all-encompassing mechanical universe < Clockwork Final ~= also one of Nyar's avatar < Awakened Demonbane 2 Swords(Also called TRUE elder god Demonbane 2 swords in its CG) < Elder Gods ~ Outer Gods
Note that this is not the entire scaling.

sounds abit bullshit, elder god demonbane thingy without pilot is totally defenseless, free food for Nyarlathotep and you still powerscale it ? Kinda unfair
by the way, concerning elder gods shit, i'd like to bring up elder god doctor west and elder god elsa, if an android, pure machine like elsa could become an elder god then there should be elder god destroyer robo around there right ? omg to think that they dont need trinity bullshitery to draw their full power, normally elsa alone is enough, our dude doctor west were just ******* around with his guitar and poking enemy.

 

[Elizhaa]

Sorry, for the reply, I got busy and forgot about this thread.

Ok so this is my final opinion on such;

The Mainstream Multiverse is Low 1-A alongside The Cycle - Each Universe contains Infinite Possibilities and is a part of an Infinite Hierarchy which would lead to an Uncountably Infinite Structure Infinity ^ Infinity instead of a countable Infinity which is High 1-B.

Hyper Dimension is 1-A - Existing outside of time and space, beyond the extent of transcending into the higher and higher universes.

The Outer Universe is a layer further into 1-A - Couldn't be reached even while Super Demonbane was transcending even further beyond the Hyper-Dimension.

Chaos is another layer into 1-A - As a place that contains entities that dwarf the boundless outside of them and is infinite.

The Games & Stages are likely 1-A+ to High 1-A - Depending on how Games and Stages are related to one another.

I could probably see the tiers like these too.

 

[Mugen_no_Setsuna]

Sorry, for the reply, I got busy and forgot about this thread.

I could probably see the tiers like these too.

thanks for returning to comment

 

[Mugen_no_Setsuna]

斬魔大戰デモンベイン - ニトロオンラインストア

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Figured that i should post this.
So Zanma Taisen, the next installment of Demonbane Mythos, which is the sequel of Zanma Taisei/Kishin Houkou and Kishin Hishou will released on 23/12, as a book consists of 80 pages, with A4 paper.

Short summary:

• Three Thousand Great Thousand Worlds/All Creation, all parallel universes, have been wasted into nothingness by Vortex Destruction God, aka Demonbane the Vortex Blaster. Even the battle that defeated Infinite Spiral (Kishin Houkou's event) or the wings that transcends blood-colored nightmare (Kishin Hishou's event) is no longer has any meaning.
• This story will take place at a broken world, the final apocalypse, where neither Kurou or Al exists. Meaning the OG cast like Kurou and Al are deceased.

Confirmed: Vortex Blaster Demonbane is now the strongest Demonbane.

 

[zero0031]

So the DYN is finally canon, right? And the verse is now 2a ?

 

[Mugen_no_Setsuna]

So the DYN is finally canon, right? And the verse is now 2a ?

You have to wait until the book came out. Though even if Taisen served as the prequel of DYN or whatsoever, doesn't matter, Blasterz and DYN Freaks are train wrecks, especially with their sheer contradictary nature. Vortex Blaster nuked Azathoth but got wrecked by Evil Gods at Cthulhu-level? **** that shit. Here's the appropriate term for DYN:

Plot-Induced Stupidity

Plot-Induced Stupidity, or PIS for short, is a term used to refer to events in a story that contradict a character's normal capabilities for the purpose of the plot. For example, if a generally competent, intelligent villain does something stupid like not killing the hero immediately when he has...

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But then again, if you want to count DYN as canon, then downgrading it to 2A is still wrong, due to PIS.
Another one:

Outliers

An Outlier is an event or incident that is considered to be completely and irreconcilably inconsistent with a character, entity, group, or series' normal displayed level of power. Outliers are often regarded as unusable in forums debates. However, efforts should be made to try to reconcile...

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