What tier would someone be if they...

[WeeklyBattles]

1. Can compress carbon molecules into diamond with their bare hands?

2. Can punch hard enough to turn stone (Such as Marble, Granite, or Limestone) into diamond instantly?

Just curious

 

[Antoniofer]

I barely remember when Mythbusters did that, of course, that were industrial diamond

 

[DontTalk]

Diamonds are created through 2.4e+10 to 1.36e+11 pascal of pressure apparently.

The energy is given through Pressure * area the pressure is applied on * distance the object that applies pressure moves while doing so

The latter can probably be estimated through density change, if the volume and surface area is known. That is with the assumption that the surface area that the force was applied on approximately stayed the same.

So for the tier it depends on the shape and size of the created diamond.

 

[Antoniofer]

@DT, I heard that there's a way to create diamonds via explosions, and is needed like a pressure of 5 GPa with a min temperature of 1477 K, is there any energy formula that use temperature or pressure?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The latter can probably be estimated through density change, if the volume and surface area is known. That is with the assumption that the surface area that the force was applied on approximately stayed the same.

Surface Area = 18513.38 cm^2

Volume = 316974.12 cm^3

 

[DontTalk]

@DT, I heard that there's a way to create diamonds via explosions, and is needed like a pressure of 5 GPa with a min temperature of 1477 K, is there any energy formula that use temperature or pressure?

Pressure as said, but temperatur is an essential aspect here, as high temperature makes it easier (temperature change and pressure change are closely related, but I don't know the formulas).

For example I also read 10 GPa at 2000┬░C.

Which reminds me that I am not sure at which temperature my pressure is.

@DT, I heard that there's a way to create diamonds via explosions, and is needed like a pressure of 5 GPa with a min temperature of 1477 K, is there any energy formula that use temperature or pressure?

Well, lets assume my pressure is correct at room temperature (quite possibly incorrect, if you want to use it for something better research is necessary).


Then lets assume the base material is graphite (technically we need to know this as well, stone actually would never work and hence couldn't be used).

18513.38 cm^2 = 1.851338 m^2

316974.12 cm^3 = 0.31697412 m^3

1.851338 m^2 * h = 0.31697412 m^3 => h=0.1712135331311732 m

Density graphite = 2.26 g/cm^3 = 2260 kg/m^3

0.31697412 m^3 * 2260 kg/m^3 = 716.3615112 kg

Density diamond = 3.5 g/cm^3 = 3500 kg/m^3

716.3615112 kg / 3500 kg/m^3 = 0.2046747174857143 m^3

1.851338 m^2 * h = 0.2046747174857143 m^3 = 0.1105550242504147 m

0.1712135331311732 m - 0.1105550242504147m = 0.0606585088807585 m

1.851338 m^2 * 2.4e+10 N/m^2 * 0.0606585088807585 m = 2.6951856603428563e9 N/m

So Building level.... maybe.

Alternatively compressive strength of graphite is 9.7e+7 pascal, using that

1.851338 m^2 * 9.7e+7 N/m^2 * 0.0606585088807585 m = 1.089304204388571095e7 J

That would be wall level.


So... no idea what is a good value here....

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What about marble or limestone?

 

[Daarius.ivey]

Well Mr. Majestic crushed a pencil into a diamond to pay for a meal in the comics, so 3B perhaps?

 

[Antoniofer]

ehmm I doubt that Majestic is 3-B by crushing a pencil until it become diamond. The DT value, 10.893 MJ, seems rasonable, I remember than the Mythbuster caused a explosion of similar size

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Arent crushing something and punching something different though?

 

[Antoniofer]

In terms of energy, maybe, due that our system doesn't deal with force nor pressure

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hmm, well i'd still like to know what punching marble or limestone into diamon would yield as opposed to graphite. Also, we still need to figure out the first one, the one about compressing carbon molecules in the air into diamond

 

[AidenBrooks999]

[snap, because too long quote]

"Volume * Pressure in MPa"


Is not like... A lot easier?

 

[DontTalk]

"Volume * Pressure in MPa"

Is not correct, the energy derives from the force * distance = energy formula, as such it has to be as demonstrated. So compression energy = pressure * area * distance compressed

And teh unit has to be pascal, since that is N/m^2 matching the volume in meter.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Yeah, I misundestood the feat

Sorry

 

[Yamatohime]

Energy required to make diamon is not about density... It is about how much energy you need to reconstruct sturcture of... For example graphite into diamond. Basicaly it is all about crystal system energy exchange. And those values is known and can be found in specific books.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Bump