Warrior of light (ff14) vs darkrai

[Regidian]

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Darkrai

Darkrai (Japanese: ダークライ, Daakurai) is a Dark-type Mythical Pokémon. Cresselia is Darkrai's counterpart and rival, and together they form the Lunar Duo. Tier: 2-B, likely 2-A Name: Darkrai Origin: Pokémon Gender: Genderless Age: Unknown Classification: Mythical Pokémon, Nightmare Pokémon Powers...

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Warrior of light:
Darkrai:
Incon:

 

[StrymULTRA]

I don't see anything on Warrior's profile that stops Darkrai from Sleep gg

 

[Regidian]

He resist status effect and have react evo about them, and sleep is a statue effect in ff14

 

[StrymULTRA]

He resist status effect and have react evo about them, and sleep is a statue effect in ff14

I legimately ctrl + F on the Resistances tabber and there's not.

 

[Regidian]

Reactive Evolution (Becomes resistant to Status Effect Inducement after being inflicted once)

And he was already infliected by sleep

 

[StrymULTRA]

Reactive Evolution (Becomes resistant to Status Effect Inducement after being inflicted once)

And he was already infliected by sleep

Well, saw that now in the moment you wrote this lol.

Issue is that its Sleep hax is > Lake Trio's, which is superior to Mewtwo's who's in billion minds potency.

How is powerful Sleep Hax in FF verse?

 

[Regidian]

Well, saw that now in the moment you wrote this lol.

Issue is that its Sleep hax is > Lake Trio's, which is superior to Mewtwo's who's in billion minds potency.

How is powerful Sleep Hax in FF verse?

Don't know that

 

[Regidian]

But well his preco should work really good here and even work to people that resist it and some acausal

 

[StrymULTRA]

But well his preco should work really good here and even work to people that resist it and some acausal

How fast is it? Because Darkrai just summons a portal under the opponent which sucks them there and then leave them to sleep in the battlefield.

 

[Regidian]

How fast is it? Because Darkrai just summons a portal under the opponent which sucks them there and then leave them to sleep in the battlefield.

Fast enough that all the people of the game are directly in and it's passive

 

[StrymULTRA]

Fast enough that all the people of the game are directly in

Elaborate

and it's passive

[[Precognition]] (From training in the Hall of the Novice, the Warrior of Light learned how to predict other people's movements through body language. Can predict a targets next attack by detecting aether. Has the power to experience the future and everything that can and will happen to the point where every failure or defeat is reduced to a mere premonition. This power is potent enough to affect Alexander who is an [[Acausality|Acausal]] (Type 3) being that can predict every possible timeline past, present, and future)

Why lying

 

[Regidian]

Elaborate

[[Precognition]] (From training in the Hall of the Novice, the Warrior of Light learned how to predict other people's movements through body language. Can predict a targets next attack by detecting aether. Has the power to experience the future and everything that can and will happen to the point where every failure or defeat is reduced to a mere premonition. This power is potent enough to affect Alexander who is an [[Acausality|Acausal]] (Type 3) being that can predict every possible timeline past, present, and future)

Why lying

I don't lie it's something that it's always here, it's litteraly the power that let him have all of his defeat/failure in the game being just premonitions and the power that let us being able to see all atk in advance in the game lol we never need to activate it

 

[StrymULTRA]

I don't lie it's something that it's always here, it's litteraly the power that let him have all of his defeat/failure in the game being just premonitions and the power that let us being able to see all atk in advance in the game lol we never need to activate it

It says that he has precognition via reading the body language. It's listed like this, and if you think that is passive make a CRT on it.

 

[Regidian]

It says that he has precognition via reading the body language. It's listed like this, and if you think that is passive make a CRT on it.

Read the thing entierly pls


Has the power to experience the future and everything that can and will happen to the point where every failure or defeat is reduced to a mere premonition.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Has the power to experience the future and everything that can and will happen to the point where every failure or defeat is reduced to a mere premonition.

Well, how's that helpful at dodging this, when it literally appears under you and drags you in the "black hole"?

 

[Regidian]

Well, how's that helpful at dodging this, when it literally appears under you and drags you in the "black hole"?

Like how it helped in think like EE, soul destruction and every ability that his ennemy have (and some of these have bfr/black hole etc) it litteraly a thing that let him having all the possibilities being defeated being just mere premonition and not actual thing that happen, and many of his ennemy had higher speed than his when he fighted them

 

[StrymULTRA]

Like how it helped in think like EE, soul destruction and every ability that his ennemy have (and some of these have bfr/black hole etc) it litteraly a thing that let him having all the possibilities being defeated being just mere premonition and not actual thing that happen, and many of his ennemy had higher speed than his when he fighted them

Scans?

 

[Regidian]

Scan of what? It's litteraly the thing that happen in each battle of the game, all the time we got defeated in a battle is not a "real thing" just a premonition till the time we win. It's litteraly what that mean....

to the point where every failure or defeat is reduced to a mere premonition.

 

[ZetaMarishi]

Darkrai probably wins. The Warrior of Light doesn't have sufficient sleep resistance immediately enough to win as far as I can tell, and he loses the built up resistances from the previous 'round' if the echo actually does trigger. While, honestly, he could get the resistance to it during the fight, he'd be helpless before he could get it, which would let Darkrai attack for a gg.

Keep in mind that while the echo is powerful there are fights the Warrior of Light loses to begin with in-story. Those are just the fights that the Echo's ability can't help him through because there's no real path to victory. I see a similar thing happening here.

Also parts of the Warrior of Light's profile are written weirdly. It's more meant to be read as such as there's multiple ways that he can do it:

Spoiler

[[Precognition]] (From training in the Hall of the Novice, the Warrior of Light learned how to predict other people's movements through body language.

Can predict a targets next attack by detecting aether.

Has the power to experience the future and everything that can and will happen to the point where every failure or defeat is reduced to a mere premonition. This power is potent enough to affect Alexander who is an [[Acausality|Acausal]] (Type 3) being that can predict every possible timeline past, present, and future)

 

[Regidian]

Darkrai probably wins. The Warrior of Light doesn't have sufficient sleep resistance immediately enough to win as far as I can tell, and he loses the built up resistances from the previous 'round' if the echo actually does trigger. While, honestly, he could get the resistance to it during the fight, he'd be helpless before he could get it, which would let Darkrai attack for a gg.

Keep in mind that while the echo is powerful there are fights the Warrior of Light loses to begin with in-story. Those are just the fights that the Echo's ability can't help him through because there's no real path to victory. I see a similar thing happening here.

Also parts of the Warrior of Light's profile are written weirdly. It's more meant to be read as such as there's multiple ways that he can do it:

Spoiler

[[Precognition]] (From training in the Hall of the Novice, the Warrior of Light learned how to predict other people's movements through body language.

Can predict a targets next attack by detecting aether.

Has the power to experience the future and everything that can and will happen to the point where every failure or defeat is reduced to a mere premonition. This power is potent enough to affect Alexander who is an [[Acausality|Acausal]] (Type 3) being that can predict every possible timeline past, present, and future)

He have many path to victory here and even when we have the lose in lore the echos still work and since the sleep thing is a status effect they are really little chance that he don't get the resistance in the premonition

 

[StrymULTRA]

He have many path to victory here and even when we have the lose in lore the echos still work and since the sleep thing is a status effect they are really little chance that he don't get the resistance in the premonition

1) Is this a Spite Thread? You're arguing for Warrior's victory so much here

2) Non of this is on the profile

3) Sleep resistance was already countered

 

[Regidian]

1) Is this a Spite Thread? You're arguing for Warrior's victory so much here

2) Non of this is on the profile

3) Sleep resistance was already countered

Not a spite thread except if you want to tell that darkrai only have sleep

What is not in his profile? Alredy show you the reac evo for statue effect and the preco that let defeat being only premonition most of the time

His react evo about status effect evolve in combat or even with premonition

 

[ZetaMarishi]

If there's no path to victory, then he can't do anything. Darkrai sleep haxes and can beat the shit out of the Warrior of Light while they're asleep. Unless Darkrai can't hurt the WoL otherwise, I gotta give it to Darkrai. And no, the resistances they'd gain to the various haxes do not carry over through the premonition. The knowledge does, that much is for certain, but if the previous attempt had a hax work the first time, then that hax will still work anyway if it lands. They just have more information about it and can hopefully avoid it.

Hell, I like the Warrior of Light more, but they just don't have the immediate resistance they'd need to fight Darkrai.

And as for Strym, the precognition thing is on the profile, but the way it's worded makes it sound like that all of the precognition came from the training by reading body movements, which is not true. That's why in my spoiler I spaced it out to show the difference.

 

[RemusSaxa]

Darkrai sleep haxes and can beat the shit out of the Warrior of Light while they're asleep.

This is a battle with the FFXIV version of the WoL right? I feel like it's being ignored that class skills/spells exist, for example, the Warrior job has the ability "Inner Release" which I will now directly quote from the in-game description

Allows the use of Beast Gauge actions without cost and nullifies Stun, Sleep, Bind, Heavy, and most knockback and draw-in effects.
Additional Effect: Guarantees that all attacks are critical and direct hits
Duration: 10s
Additional Effect: Extends Storm's Eye duration by 15s to a maximum of 60s

Source (I know it's from the job guide but it's the exact same thing in-game)

 

[RemusSaxa]

@Regidian Question: Is the WoL allowed to use the Crystal of Azem or is it not allowed for balancing?