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Not really if they're both at Peak Human level.
John's weapons are stronger and a lot of 47's arsenal is limited to his 9-B stuff which John can deal with.
I feel like some of yall ain't even reading the thread smh.
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Wait, how has this match not been done already? (John Wick vs Agent 47)
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I feel like some of yall ain't even reading the thread smh.
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I like your funny words, magic man.
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Whom-
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47 would have like, double wick's LS damn near lol
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Not really, matter of fact John's isn't even currently quantifiable so ye, he needs to have a CRT done as well.
Tbh best not to use LS as an argument here
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Lmfao
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I'm talking about his poisons (His standard equipment section states he would be carrying at least one of them) and explosives that don't surpass the 9-B threshold.
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And we can't forget, he needed to use the bathroom lol
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I thought they explode, not shoot bullets. Anyway Wick's good enough to where if he sees something out of the ordinary such as a rubber ducky he'll either shoot it from a safe distance or simply avoid it.
Plus I'd also imagine that'd be hard to pull off in the middle of s gun-fight.
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he meant 47 flashbangs wick and then shoots him while hes blind
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I linked a walkthrough of Agent 47 going on a tour of the ICA data facility located in Chongqing, disguised as a member of the board inspecting the place. The location evidently has major security. Now I linked a walkthrough of Agent 47 sneaking in there to get data from the core, without changing his disguise, and maintaining his canonical Silent Assassin rating. I don't know the extent of John Wick's skills, but they don't seem better than Agent 47's skills, especially when taking into consideration what other people have written about him and what else can be accurately described of him that is described on his VS Battles Wiki profile. I vote for Agent 47 winning the matchup.
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You clearly don't watch a lot of vs threads, do you? Lifting strength is a pretty common thing to mention, especially for lower-tier characters like this.This be the only VS thread I've seen lifting strength be relevant in, and it just gets rendered irrelevant anyway.
My genuine reaction to Gin ending my entire career.
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Ok Mr.Crabs
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Wick definitely.
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Wick in a close fight FRA
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47 fra
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Which ones in particular? Because most were based upon stealth, which won't be a massive factor here.
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I mean, 47 could simply retreat into a crowd and then start abusing stealth.
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John won't let him, he'll be consistently firing off bullets the entire time.
Retreating requires slipping the opponent's senses and also you know, turning back.
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What's the starting room like?
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I don't think my vote is invalid, but I need to write more to explain why. I didn't explain further in my message, post number 60, so I'll do so here. Some kinds of stealth skill demonstrations don't only suggest how good a character is at remaining hidden, but also their skills at avoiding trouble in general, as well as tactics involving navigating a location. The original post states that "they start a dozen meters apart, but there is cover in the form of furniture and the like". Even though the two characters know where they are, to my knowledge Agent 47 would do better than John Wick in those circumstances, seeing as how he could efficiently navigate locations in far more dangerous and risky circumstances, but correct me if John Wick has demonstrated better than what I know. (I'm only writing based on what I see on his profile and what I've seen people explain in this thread.) Also, what's associated with Agent 47's "Silent Assassin" stealth skills are other abilities such as acrobatics. Although he doesn't demonstrate it in combat, and although it doesn't look flashy, Agent 47 has been shown to be able to climb terrain and in tricky situations, such as during the concluding event on a train in the Carpathian Mountains. I'll also link evidence of Agent 47 doing an assassination mission involving acrobatics and stealth almost precisely in the location that this versus thread's battle takes place in. Along with his higher intelligence and his fighting skills, he should be able to keep up with John Wick, and would most likely find some way to outdo him depending on how the battle goes. My vote remains as Agent 47 winning the battle.
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John was being hunted by a group with influence in all corners of the world, and the people who are sent after him are far, far more durable than anything 47's encountered (High Table special units wearing outright bullet proof armor to a ridiculous degree.), and fought them in waves while in the dark. I definitely wouldn't day 47's encounters have been "far deadlier.".
47 is all about assassination and making a quick and silent getaway. His thing isn't fighting literally armies of hitmen for weeks on end, that's John. You'd be comparing apples to oranges by comparing their circumstances to one another.
also 47's location tracking is gonna be next to useless here, as Wick won't be hidinig away from 47 but instead he'll likely be the one on the offensive.
That's just him managing to not fall off a train that ain't even moving all to fast. That's not impressive, especially in comparison to Wick's fighting in a moving train which would be more difficult.
John can out maneuver dozens of trained Assassins on speeding high end motorcycles on a ******* horse and do shit like this.
As a child he's capable of doing acrobatics such as this.
I can continue such as the time Wick did this and then this to a group of men all at the same time.
Being able flexible enough to utilize Gun-Fu, etc. Wick takes the advantage there.
First of all, again that's not a feat of acrobatics but rather a feat of parkour so not really the best argument to use here. Plus Wick also has ways of dealing with opponents who are annoyingly agile like Zero.
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I wasn't comparing the durability of the two characters here. Anyway, Agent 47's targets were stated to be some of the most protected people in the world, so him not being at least comparable to John Wick is an understatement. Remember that stealth is just Agent 47's schtick and is nowhere near the end of what he's capable of.
Agent 47's tactics in general not revolving around direct combat doesn't change how he is skilled and would use his skills in a 1 VS 1 matchup like this one against John Wick. I'll provide more evidence below.
- I linked footage of Agent 47 fighting against and killing the superhuman Sanchez, without much trouble at all using only his strength.
- I linked a trailer for Hitman: Absolution in which Agent 47 fights and kills an elite group of assassins named The Saints, in a 1 VS 8 that had both limb attacks and weapon attacks.
I didn't mention anything about Instinct, so I don't know why you mentioned it. Now that you mentioned it though, I should point out that it has utility even though John Wick wouldn't be hiding. In a bad situation for Agent 47, he would try avoiding John Wick and would keep track of him from far using Instinct, so he could find the perfect opening to attack him from far with no risk.
In the video I linked, Agent 47 demonstrated that, during freezing cold snowy weather, he can spend many minutes uninterruptedly sneaking through an entire heavily guarded train going at a dangerous steady pace, while performing various feats of jumping from one train car to another and climbing around the sides and top of the train, all efficiently and without breaking his usual stoical focus in the slightest. You don't think this is impressive because your standards are too high.
That's impressive and all, as I expected from John Wick, but I think this is a close battle, not one where John Wick has the clear advantage.John can out maneuver dozens of trained Assassins on speeding high end motorcycles on a ******* horse and do shit like this.
As a child he's capable of doing acrobatics such as this.
I can continue such as the time Wick did this and then this to a group of men all at the same time.
Being able flexible enough to utilize Gun-Fu, etc. Wick takes the advantage there.
Being skilled at jumping and climbing during parkour falls under acrobatics, at least in the sense the VS Battles Wiki and I mean it in. John Wick is probably better at acrobatics anyway, but I'm explaining that Agent 47 isn't a bulky robot that some people may think he is.
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So are Members of the High Table, The One Who sits above the Table and the Pope. What you just said there isn't anything Wick isn't capable of.
Nobody ever made that claim so that's irrelevant.
Cool, that's not very impressive considering John does the same to groups of stronger opponents every movie.
Cue Wick vs Zero's students
Cue Wick vs the groups of the world's deadliest Assassins spread world-wide.
To reflect on this part, The High Table has been a thing since the Aztec's were around. Meaning the organization itself has been doing this for hundreds upon hundreds of years.
Cue Wick slaughtering dozens upon dozens of Elite High Table Soliders.
This is nothing new.
Let me reiterate, this isn't that impressive. Which is what i meant to say, but alas it isn't like 47 is doing flips mid-air or being shot at while performing them.
Read above.
Wick has advantages in certain aspects, same as 47.
Thankfully I never said 47 was a brick. I agree that 47 is agile, I just believe John is moreso.
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I'm still convinced 47 would be able to hide behind cover long enough to slip into a crowd assuming they don't begin in a completely empty room.
