Very Small Upgrade to Tensura(WN)

[Catpija]

I see, then 3A it is

 

[091Franky]

I deleted the comment because I'm not sure if that's how low 2-C works

 

[Catpija]

Alright, im thinking back about who should scales, if there are any character left please tell me

Kondo, Carerra with Judgement Bullet
Zero(as a True Dragon)
Leon(evolved into Demi-God, Guy assumed Chloe is atleast Demi-God)
Dagruel(Comparable to Veldora)
Shion(Comparable to Dagruel, physically stronger than Diablo after the main story, can split Rimurun body apart)
Shuna(can split Rimurun body apart, comparable if not equal to Shion physically)
Dino(Comparable to Zegion)
Kumara(Can possibly beat Diablo)

Since no one says anything more about this, i assume this is already correct so i will update the scaling

Post-Timeskip Guy >= Yuuki/Velda(3 feat of 3A) = Tenma War Rimuru >= Full Power Milim > Tenma War Guy (3A) = Prime Rudra >> Chloe = True Dragons = Judgement Bullet >= Dagruel >= Shion = Kumara(possibly) > Diablo, Zegion, Benimaru >= Dino >= Prime Ramiris > Guy 2000 years ago(3A)

Im not sure about Kumara since i found out that she can beat Diablo from the profile, can someone who knows about this feat provide the scans?

 

[LoganKroos]

how many will be updated?

 

[LoganKroos]

i will leave the fandom the day Ruminas become Universal+ , that weak fodder shouldnt even be on the Octagram

lol don't do that as it will probably turn multiversal at light level

 

[Catpija]

how many will be updated?

20 character

1. Guy Crimson
2. Yuuki Kaguuzuraka
3. Rimuru(Pseudo True Dragon Key)
4. Milim
5. Masayuki
6. Chloe
7. Velzard
8. Velgyrnd
9. Veldora(Web Novel Story Key)
10. Zero
11. Carrera
12. Kondo
13. Dagruel
14. Shion
15. Kumara
16. Diablo
17. Zegion
18. Benimaru
19. Dino
20. Ramiris

 

[LoganKroos]

20 character

1. Guy Crimson
2. Yuuki Kaguuzuraka
3. Rimuru(Pseudo True Dragon Key)
4. Milim
5. Masayuki
6. Chloe
7. Velzard
8. Velgyrnd
9. Veldora(Web Novel Story Key)
10. Zero
11. Carrera
12. Kondo
13. Dagruel
14. Shion
15. Kumara
16. Diablo
17. Zegion
18. Benimaru
19. Dino
20. Ramiris

testossa??? she is the 4th strongest servant of Rimuru

 

[Elizhaa]

I guess 3-A looks doable from Celestial Pegasus's point. I guess the tier 4 in the Web Novel would be 3-A, then.

 

[Catpija]

testossa??? she is the 4th strongest servant of Rimuru

where does she scale though, she isnt even comparable to Prime Ramiris or Guy 2000 years ago

 

[LoganKroos]

where does she scale though, she isnt even comparable to Prime Ramiris or Guy 2000 years ago

she is stronger than shion and the other primordials

 

[Catpija]

she is stronger than shion and the other primordials

she isnt stronger than Shion, or Guy or even Diablo, other primordials than those 2 arent 3-A except for Carerra who inherited Judgement Bullet

 

[LoganKroos]

she isnt stronger than Shion, or Guy or even Diablo, other primordials than those 2 arent 3-A too except for Carerra who inherited Judgement Bullet

doesn't include Diablo or Guy because it's exaggeration, but she is definitely stronger than Carrera, so much so that she was the only one of the trio that managed to last against Yuuki's minions, and against shion it's debatable, as she was always the 3 strongest of them all. primordials and Diablo's right-hand man

 

[091Franky]

If you have statement then bring it here. Also shion afterstories key is only High 4-C here not the one during dagruel fight

 

[Catpija]

doesn't include Diablo or Guy because it's exaggeration, but she is definitely stronger than Carrera, so much so that she was the only one of the trio that managed to last against Yuuki's minions, and against shion it's debatable, as she was always the 3 strongest of them all. primordials and Diablo's right-hand man

Carerra isnt 3-A, its the judgement bullet that she have, unless you can prove that somehow Testarossa is stronger than Judgement Bullet

 

[LoganKroos]

ok so, for me as testarossa is the 4 strongest of the 12 patrons she would be 3A too, but I think I must have confused it with light, I'll take a look later

 

[Zegion]

So can this be applied then?

 

[Peak]

I agree with the upgrades to 3-A, Testarossa and Ruminas shouldn't scale at all, nor are her haxs focused on destructive power

 

[Zegion]

I just saw Dino is comparable or superior to Zegion shouldn't he be mftl+ ?

20 character

1. Guy Crimson
2. Yuuki Kaguuzuraka
3. Rimuru(Pseudo True Dragon Key)
4. Milim
5. Masayuki
6. Chloe
7. Velzard
8. Velgyrnd
9. Veldora(Web Novel Story Key)
10. Zero
11. Carrera
12. Kondo
13. Dagruel
14. Shion
15. Kumara
16. Diablo
17. Zegion
18. Benimaru
19. Dino
20. Ramiris

 

[Peak]

I just saw Dino is comparable or superior to Zegion shouldn't he be mftl+ ?

Can Dino also move a million times faster in stopped time? Why Zegion is only mftl+ because of that.

 

[Zegion]

Can Dino also move a million times faster in stopped time? Why Zegion is only mftl+ because of that.

I don't remember but since it's written he is comparable or superior to Zegion i don't see a problem

 

[Peak]

I don't remember but since it's written he is comparable or superior to Zegion i don't see a problem

Dino is comparable to Zegion without being in stopped time

 

[Catpija]

Infinite Prison is a infinite space that seal the target, and can be used by Chloe as a defense shield. this is also consistent since a 3-A character(Veldora) cant damage it, so would this grant Chloe High 3-A?

 

[LoganKroos]

Infinite Prison is a infinite space that seal the target, and can be used by Chloe as a defense shield. this is also consistent since a 3-A character(Veldora) cant damage it, so would this grant Chloe High 3-A?

I think so, I don't know exactly since the complex number of spatial dimensions is also high 3A already wue are several spaces without time

 

[Zegion]

Dino is comparable to Zegion without being in stopped time

And why is he not comparable in stop time?even tho i am pretty sure dino is capable of moving in stopped time because of him being a spiritual lifeform

Guy thought.

Even in the world where the time stopped, Chloe could move calmly.

In a world where normal eyesight didn't have any meaning as even the light particles have stopped.

In this world where time stopped, the reactions from the energy released is used to perceive the situation.

Whether it's Heroes or Devils, since they were bound by the world's rule, it's impossible for them to act.

However, Chloe had transcended that restriction.

In other words

(This person, was a spiritual lifeform too, that's it)

And he was even capable of moving in subspace created by zero which distorts the flow of time,here zero(capable of moving in stop time) is also FTL who is also superior to Zegion and comparable to veldora

 

[Catpija]

And why is he not comparable in stop time?even tho i am pretty sure dino is capable of moving in stopped time because of him being a spiritual lifeform

Just being spiritual lifeform isnt enough, you need to be High Rank Spiritual Lifeform who are at True Dragon Level.

And he was even capable of moving in subspace created by zero which distorts the flow of time,here zero(capable of moving in stop time) is also FTL who is also superior to Zegion and comparable to veldora

He can move in there because of his barrier, its even stated that the only one there who have Space-Time control is only Rimuru 3 strongest guardian.

『Good, protect them with your barrier properly, okay?

Otherwise, they would get swallowed up by the subspace and get blown away to no one knows where!」

Dino nodded to Ramiris’ warning.

Aside from Zegion who was connected via “Soul Corridor”, Dino and co who didn’t have firm bonds, had no foothold inside the subspace.

Still, Dino could manage it somehow, but he predicted that Pico and Garasha would get swept away easily by the subspace.

If they were swallowed up by the phase fluctuation inside the subspace, it would be impossible to predict what kind of different dimension and space they would get blown into.

Because it was a different space where the flow of time could get distorted, it would be hopeless to return to the same spot once you got swept away.

Even for Pico and Garasha who were of the awakened demon lord class, it would be difficult for them to maintain their existences inside the subspace.

The minimum requirement for that was to own the『Space-Time Control』skill.

It was an ultimate ability that nobody else had apart from Diablo, Zegion and Benimaru, who finally could use it.

「Listen, you two wouldn’t be able to move inside the subspace.

Therefore, grab onto me tightly, okay? I think you can’t come back once you get swept away.」

 

[Catpija]

anyway, can this upgrade be applied then, since 2 staffs have given their input

 

[Zegion]

Just being spiritual lifeform isnt enough, you need to be High Rank Spiritual Lifeform who are at True Dragon Level

What about Zero then?

anyway, can this upgrade be applied then, since 2 staffs have given their input

iirc 1 more staff input is needed

 

[Catpija]

What about Zero then?

If i remember correctly, you just need to be strong af to not get launched by the distorted space, Zero being massively stronger than Dino who can resist the sub-space should explain about it

 

[Zegion]

If i remember correctly, you just need to be strong af to not get launched by the distorted space, Zero being massively stronger than Dino who can resist the sub-space should explain about it

I don't remember much from wn but in zero's profile It's stated he could Move in stopped time

(Can move in stopped time, and move in the subspace created by Zero which had a distorted flow of time that prevented anyone in it from moving and resist being sent to another dimension or space)

 

[Catpija]

I don't remember much from wn but in zero's profile It's stated he could Move in stopped time

i dont remember that too, i'll try to find it

 

[Zegion]

Also we need just 1 more staff input to get done with this crt

 

[LoganKroos]

i still think Guy is low2c but the rest I agree with 3A

 

[Peak]

Has this already been accepted?

 

[Catpija]

Has this already been accepted?

yes

 

[LoganKroos]

yes

everyone who climbs to Guy will be 3A, although I still think Guy apart from the others is low2c, since at the end of the work he is the 3 strongest in the series and Rimuru himself says he is strong enough to fight him

 

[Catpija]

everyone who climbs to Guy will be 3A, although I still think Guy apart from the others is low2c, since at the end of the work he is the 3 strongest in the series and Rimuru himself says he is strong enough to fight him

it wasnt said strong enough to fight him, its just stated that they fought multiple times one year after tenma war but the results wasnt explained, he could be going easy on Guy or smth

 

[LoganKroos]

it wasnt said strong enough to fight him, its just stated that they fought multiple times one year after tenma war but the results wasnt explained, he could be going easy on Guy or smth

Guy was already strong enough to fight Yuuki with Lucifer, then with nodens he can copy any skill besides being definitely stronger than Veldora who is low2c

 

[Catpija]

Guy was already strong enough to fight Yuuki with Lucifer, then with nodens he can copy any skill besides being definitely stronger than Veldora who is low2c

how do you know who is stronger of afterstories Veldora and Guy though?
i guess maybe possibly L2C is fine, since we not know if Rimuru hold back or not or if Guy get clapped easily, but maybe there a little chance that Guy can hold his own against Rimuru

 

[LoganKroos]

how do you know who is stronger of afterstories Veldora and Guy though?
i guess maybe possibly L2C is fine, since we not know if Rimuru hold back or not or if Guy get clapped easily, but maybe there a little chance that Guy can hold his own against Rimuru

if we both agree with low2c is enough for me, i just want Guy to be low2c which is where he should be from the start

 

[Catpija]

how do you know who is stronger of afterstories Veldora and Guy though?

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