Versus matchup suggestion evaluations

[Sniper670]

I might have to check their profiles

Because Arceus have almost every useful hax here

Alright. You PM me when you see something. I was going to do that but I'm preparing a crt

 

[Ego]

Alright. You PM me when you see something. I was going to do that but I'm preparing a crt

I looked at 1-C digimons and the Digimon Physiology and it doesn't seem like they can interact with Acasuality 5 and can't be TD2

They probably can't beat Arceus NEP2 if Arceus is 6D

I'll check DMC later

 

[Sniper670]

Well, I'm still looking for a much I guess. Let me know if you find one

 

[Ego]

Well, I'm still looking for a much I guess. Let me know if you find one

Yeah and they don't seem to resist all of Arceus hax

Arceus is just so hard to kill and hax these days smh...

 

[Ego]

NEP 2, Acasuality 5, and TD2 Is the most disgusting combination ever

 

[Sniper670]

That's about it then. Oh well

 

[Ego]

I looked at the top 5 low 1-C's and it seems like Arceus probably stalemates all of them for now until it's hax are 5D to it's power

Yeah Arceus is too op to be here

 

[Sniper670]

He's more like a fodder hiding behind defensive shields.

That's a Coward move man

 

[Arkenis]

Sakanashi Base vs Xiao equal speed

 

[Ego]

Would Bowser with the dream stone or pure hearts be a good match against hyper sonic in 2-B if speed is equal?

 

[Propellus]

Is this match okay?

RoboCain (upscales slightly from 5,020,800 joules) vs Moon Knight (MCU) (scales to 12,528,790.3655 joules) with speed equalized

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Is this match okay?

RoboCain (upscales slightly from 5,020,800 joules) vs Moon Knight (MCU) (scales to 12,528,790.3655 joules) with speed equalized

Ye. Seems to be fair to me. Neither has any notable hax, and the ap difference between them is very small, and could potentially be smaller due to RoboCain upscaling in his AP.

 

[RoTt35]

Jean Grey vs Jean Grey on their base with speed equalised

 

[Kflare63]

Garou vs Neo Metal Sonic (both 5-A speed equal)

 

[Propellus]

Krypto the Superdog vs Sparkster

Both are 8-A
Speed is equalized
Krypto is in his Season 2 key

Krypto upscales from 99.45 tons to baseline 8-A
Sparkster scales to 104.06 tons

 

[Arkenis]

Mr. Billy vs Raiden equal speed both have knowledge on each other

 

[Arkenis]

Mr. Billy vs Salem equal speed both have knowledge

 

[Kflare63]

Mr. Billy vs Raiden equal speed both have knowledge on each other

Mr. Billy vs Salem equal speed both have knowledge

there's a likelihood that these matches end in the same way that Weiss match did

 

[Arkenis]

there's a likelihood that these matches end in the same way that Weiss match did

Does salem have a way of killing herself? I see she has mid high regen so kinda guessed she has no way to killself

 

[Kflare63]

Does salem have a way of killing herself? I see she has mid high regen so kinda guessed she has no way to killself

but then that would be either a stomp (Billy's favor) or incon since if salem won't fight anymore then the match is effectively over.

 

[Arkenis]

but then that would be either a stomp (Billy's favor) or incon since if salem won't fight anymore then the match is effectively over.

fuck me

 

[Kflare63]

but all is not lost just yet b/c I have been thinking of him fighting Neo Metal Sonic (IDW) since they share the same gimmick and it's unknown if metal sonic has morals or not even if he's Neo ms

 

[Arkenis]

but all is not lost just yet b/c I have been thinking of him fighting Neo Metal Sonic (IDW) since they share the same gimmick and it's unknown if metal sonic has morals or not even if he's Neo ms

That's possible, but I think it still ends in stomp once Billy gets close or sonic gets close. Since he's made out of metal Billy can very likely decon him into liquid metal or just break apart his entire body.

 

[Arkenis]

I need someone who's got mid regen, has several ways of winning but not overpowered to the point Billy's regen just becomes irrelevant and class G lifting strength and likely won't get their morals fucked.

 

[Kflare63]

That's possible, but I think it still ends in stomp once Billy gets close or sonic gets close. Since he's made out of metal Billy can very likely decon him into liquid metal or just break apart his entire body.

this will have to be debated because there are counter points and other deciding factors to this matchup

 

[Arkenis]

this will have to be debated because there are counter points and other deciding factors to this matchup

Is he able to resist it?

 

[Arkenis]

And does he have every single one of sonic and shadows abilities or just their base abilities?

 

[Kflare63]

Is he able to resist it?

he has other notable hax and is able to know about this from the get-go due to how his power mimicry works

 

[Arkenis]

he has other notable hax and is able to know about this from the get-go due to how his power mimicry works

What would his counter be though if he did get touched?

 

[Kflare63]

And does he have every single one of sonic and shadows abilities or just their base abilities

basically what he's seen from them at that point so yeah their base abilities

What would his counter be though if he did get touched?

that would be to prevent him from being touched in the first place such as with time stop and teleportation and can potentially widdle him down with chaos spears thanks to shadow's abilities.

 

[Arkenis]

basically what he's seen from them at that point so yeah their base abilities

that would be to prevent him from being touched in the first place such as with time stop and teleportation and can potentially widdle him down with chaos spears thanks to shadow's abilities.

Then it's just a stomp for neo sonic if he's got time stop tbh.

 

[Kflare63]

it can be restricted and besides Mr. Billy has plenty of hax and wincons

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Have some Kikoru matches idea in mind but first i want to know from you guys if these ideas are thematic and good enough:

• Kaiju Weapon Arc Kikoru vs EoS Rising Form Kuuga
• First key (Low 7-C) Kikoru vs BoS Homura Kougetsu

Speed equal for both of those

 

[Coolboy6]

MCU Iron Man vs Homelander (TV series)
Iron man Mark 2-5 key is used, speed is equalized

 

[Propellus]

MCU Iron Man vs Homelander (TV series)
Iron man Mark 2-5 key is used, speed is equalized

Is Homelander even upgraded? If not, how can he even hurt him?

 

[Coolboy6]

Is Homelander even upgraded? If not, how can he even hurt him?

Heat vision and LS I guess

 

[koopa3144]

Weiss Schnee vs Dio Brando with speed equalised, Beacon Weiss and Phantom Blood Dio.

 

[Coolboy6]

Is Homelander even upgraded? If not, how can he even hurt him?

So uhh, is the match good?

 

[Propellus]

So uhh, is the match good?

Not really sure if it's fair that Iron Man is the only one being able to harm Homelander, but Homelander on the other hand can't, though he's pretty haxless

 

[Coolboy6]

Not really sure if it's fair that Iron Man is the only one being able to harm Homelander, but Homelander on the other hand can't, though he's pretty haxless

Homelander can crush Iron Man’s armor with Class K LS or could melt it with heat vision I guess

 

[Propellus]

Homelander can crush Iron Man’s armor with Class K LS or could melt it with heat vision I guess

His heat resistance covers that tho, although this Homelander is prone to spamming heat vision

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Mario vs Sonic (Game Continuity)

2-B versions and speed equalised. (Sonic has two 2-B keys, so whatever is most balanced works)

 

[SuperStar]

Mario vs Sonic (Game Continuity)

2-B versions and speed equalised.

Mario is still going through his profile split, so the match is on hold, I believe

Plus, that match might get toxic asf

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I see. I'll put it on hold for now. If it gets toxic, I will either try to calm people down, or just close the thread.

 

[Coolboy6]

Mario vs Sonic (Game Continuity)

2-B versions and speed equalised. (Sonic has two 2-B keys, so whatever is most balanced works)

Ahem

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Mario is still going through his profile split, so the match is on hold, I believe

Plus, that match might get toxic asf

Which key of Sonic is better btw? Super or Hyper Sonic?

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Ahem

Oof, so it was a stomp in favour of Sonic?

 

[SuperStar]

Being a Mario fan has been rough lately

 

[Coolboy6]

Oof, so it was a stomp in favour of Sonic?

Yep, Sanic resistances go brrr

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Ew, the Mario Profile Split.

Literally makes no sense, the only one I can see getting a profile split is Paper Mario, anything after that doesn't make sense.

 

[Kflare63]

Wait what are they splitting the profiles into aside from paper mario?

 

[SuperStar]

Wait what are they splitting the profiles into aside from paper mario?

Everything I believe

 

[Coolboy6]

Gorr The God Butcher vs Grand Priest (Super DB Heroes)
Both 2-A, 2nd key Gorr used, speed equalized

 

[Arkenis]

Gorr The God Butcher vs Grand Priest (Super DB Heroes)
Both 2-A, 2nd key Gorr used, speed equalized

Seems a bit stompish for grand priest, Gor can neg immortality but to what lvl idk, otherwise if he can do that then I can see it being a good match.

 

[Coolboy6]

Seems a bit stompish for grand priest, Gor can neg immortality but to what lvl idk, otherwise if he can do that then I can see it being a good match.

Grand Priest’s stamina reduction seems like a pain to overcome though

 

[Arkenis]

Grand Priest’s stamina reduction seems like a pain to overcome though

Yeah considering its base off just his attacks, his IR would make it hard for Gor to land hits as well. what about Gorr's berserkers? could help to overwhelm if they scale

 

[Coolboy6]

what about Gorr's berserkers? could help to overwhelm if they scale

Instinctive Reaction would help against them

 

[Propellus]

Mertin the Magnificent vs Darth Vader (Original Trilogy)

Both are 8-A

Speed is equalized

Post Mustafar Vader is being used

Mertin upscales from 99.45 tons to baseline 8-A

Vader scales to 491.07 tons

Edit: I just realized that post rebels Vader resists transmutation, rip.

 

[Coolboy6]

Mertin the Magnificent vs Darth Vader (Original Trilogy)

Both are 8-A

Speed is equalized

Post Rebels Vader is being used

Mertin upscales from 99.45 tons to baseline 8-A

Not really sure what value Vader scales to tbh.

Vader scales to This (491 tons)

 

[Propellus]

Vader scales to This (491 tons)

Thanks

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Rago VS Beerus

Both Low 2-C

Speed equal

starting 100ft away from each other
(is this a viable match up to make?)

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

I always thought Walter White Vs A-Train is a matchup that’s ridiculous but also kinda funny Wall Level+ A-Train Vs Walter White with prep (maybe a week or two) and he has access to what he would have in season 4

Speed equalized too uvu

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Rago VS Beerus

Both Low 2-C

Speed equal

starting 100ft away from each other
(is this a viable match up to make?)

Actually this might be a hax stomp in favor of Rago so can anyone suggest a better opponent for him? (I was searching through the Low 2-C category but it's damn hard to find someone suitable lel)

 

[Arkenis]

Actually this might be a hax stomp in favor of Rago so can anyone suggest a better opponent for him? (I was searching through the Low 2-C category but it's damn hard to find someone suitable lel)

100 ft is kinda ridiculous considering both their ranges lol. and yeah it's prob gonna be hard finding someoone who can deal with mid godly regen and also not have other broken hax as well.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

100 ft is kinda ridiculous considering both their ranges lol. and yeah it's prob gonna be hard finding someoone who can deal with mid godly regen and also not have other broken hax as well.

there are like 1194 characters in that category so maybe there is a rare chance

 

[RoTt35]

Cosmic Fear Garou (5-A) vs HotPF Jean Grey (High 6-A) with speed equalized

 

[CrackerVolley]

Is Soma Cruz vs FFXIV's Warrior Life (as a Blue Mage) a good matchup or is there too much of a AP or ability difference between the two?

 

[Propellus]

Mertin the Magnificent (8-A) vs D-Day Knight (7-B) with speed equalized

 

[Cimafranca133]

John Doe (UnOrdinary) (Fight with Royals Key; 0.25 tons) VS Tanjiro Kamado (Post Type-Zero Training; 0.6 tons) with Speed Equalized, 20 meter distance from each other and Demon Slayer Mark Restricted

 

[Arkenis]

Anyone got a match for Seal

 

[CrackerVolley]

I'm thinking about a fight between Pickle and G because I thought their personalities clashing would be funny (Pickle somehow ending up in a exhibition match that G signed up for because of promotional reasons, so before the fight begins G is spreading his message of world unification while Pickle is just standing there confused) along with what they scale to being a 2x AP gap at most. But now I remember that Pickle already upscales pretty hard from the other 8-Bs, so I'm worried if it's getting close to one-shot territiory.

 

[koopa3144]

Darkseid vs Sheev Palpatine with speed equalized Pre-Flashpoint Emanation (4-B) and Legends/EU (4-B) keys being used.

 

[CrackerVolley]

I'm thinking about a fight between Pickle and G because I thought their personalities clashing would be funny (Pickle somehow ending up in a exhibition match that G signed up for because of promotional reasons, so before the fight begins G is spreading his message of world unification while Pickle is just standing there confused) along with what they scale to being a 2x AP gap at most. But now I remember that Pickle already upscales pretty hard from the other 8-Bs, so I'm worried if it's getting close to one-shot territiory.

Ok, just found out that Pickle was Yujiro's physical equal at that point, so it's just a 2x AP gap.

 

[Mantidil]

Professor Hojo vs Professor Tomoe
Both 4-A with speed equalized

 

[Psychomaster35]

So while I'm keeping this match a secret, I'm planning to pit 2 characters against each other, speed unequal. Character A is considered to be almost 16x faster than Character B, but Character B is much stronger and more durable than (Although on the same tier as) Character A and has a more versatile move set.

Would this indicate a fair matchup?

 

[Pikaman]

I’m pretty sure 16x would be a blitz, so unless character B has some very good hax or amps I can’t see an AP/Dura advantage being much help unless it itself is above 7x, at which point it’s Character B who stomps

 

[CrackerVolley]

Does anyone know any matchups for Q from Street Fighter, or any 9-A SF character matter. The main feat most of them scale to is 449 mj/0.10 tons of tnt.

 

[Sniper670]

Hi. I wanted to know whether Nicol Bolas vs Arceus(Avatar) could work.

Nicole Bolas (Dragon Guy)

Nicol Bolas

Though now Nameless, Nicol Bolas was a Planeswalker as well as an Elder Dragon, one of only seven who survived The Elder Dragon War. He along with his Kin were born from Ur-Dragon. Originally being a Planeswalker before the Mending occurred Nicol Bolas is considered one of the oldest beings in...

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Arceus (Llama God)

Arceus

Arceus is a Mythical Pokémon who is the leader and creator of the "Creation Trio" formed by Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, as well as the "Lake Trio" formed by Mesprit, Uxie, and Azelf, making it a Trio Master, and the only one who is that of two different trios. By bringing the trios into...

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Immortality Type 9 is an issue but Nicol has several ways to incap, which would be another way to win

 

[CrackerVolley]

I want Guilty Gear matchups but 5-A is a big ranged in AP. Does anyone know any character or verses with AP close to 3 Ninatons (The calc is ~120 Ninatons, but Justice was given a 40x boost due to the Outrage armor)

 

[TheKillerYT]

sans vs Grand priest?

 

[TheMonkeMan]

sans vs Grand priest?

Seems that it's Power Null and Reality Warping FTW

 

[TheKillerYT]

Seems that it's Power Null and Reality Warping FTW

does he start with those?

 

[TheMonkeMan]

does he start with those?

Idk gotta ask someone with knowledge on him or look up a clip

 

[TheKillerYT]

Idk gotta ask someone knowledge on him or look up a clip

because you do know just because the enemy has good hax doesn't mean they win? You did the same in kirby vs asriel

 

[TheMonkeMan]

I have no interest in arguing with you, nor is this the thread for such a matter.
Just look up clips of the character fighting or ask people who watch/read Dragon Ball about him.

 

[TheKillerYT]

I have no interest in arguing with you, nor is this the thread for such a matter.

Same I was just saying so you wont do the mistake again. I will ask some dbz supporters