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Vegito (Xeno) VS Yhwach
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Vegito stomps. Dimensional Domain, then Vegito one shots
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Nvm Vegito heaps faster homie Yhwach gets send to god FAST
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Wouldn’t this go down the same way the xeno goku vs ywach match went? With ywach stomping ?
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but will he be able to react to bloodlusted Vegito with probability manip tho? the speed gap is bonkers
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The almighty will see it coming miles away, he can just pick the future where he wins
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yeah but Vegito probab manip counters regardless ensuring a hit and also waaay faster than Yhwach could ever react
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Soul Crush.
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bloodlusted Vegito ki blasts reaches him way faster than he could Soul Crush
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Soul Crush is passive.
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But it’s passive
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Huh, didn't know that.
Nullflowerblush
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Soul Crush requires Yhwach to be more powerful than him, no?
He already has protection against 2-A attacks on his soul scaling off of Xeno Goku.
He already has protection against 2-A attacks on his soul scaling off of Xeno Goku.
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Goku (Xeno) has a feat of resisting 2-A soul manip??
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No
Soul Hax and AP aren't interchangeable, nobody in Dragon Ball either canon or non canon come anywhere near Bleach in terms of soul hax.
2-A soul resistance from tanking punches directed at the soul isn't a thing, it's just baseline resistance.
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So like soul can't have a durability? What if inverse it does have durability
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I was thinking the same but I didn't think he was literally just refering to the AP & Dura scaling to each other in DB. But wouldn't resisting Hakai count though?
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thats still a baseline resistance
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Soul Crush
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It's just baseline soul resistance
"2-A soul resistance" from tanking hits aimed at your soul by a 2-A isn't a thing, even in Bleach where the soul and AP are far more closely tied than in Dragon Ball, we don't say Yhwach has "Low 2-C soul resistance" because he can tank hits from Ichigo.
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It wouldn’t be anywhere close to bleach soul Stuff.
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could you elaborate? thanks!
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goku tanked a basic soul destruction attack, that is a baseline soul resistance
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why is that?
What makes Hakai basic and Soul Crush not? Also doesnt Hakai scale with the users AP? And also Hakai is EE which should be above just Soul deletion.
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because apparently bleach has some type of scaling chain that makes the hax above baseline.
hakai ignores durability so i don't see why it would
why would it being EE mean its above soul erasure?
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"Some type" thats very vague but i assume the morderators would have good reason to edorse the scaling chain.
Hakai should scale to AP or it's saying Zeno hakai = Beerus hakai.
I dont know? more concepts involved? I'm not so sure.
Rikimarox2
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BTW, didn't the standards for the whole soul fuckery changed? Are Bleach soul crushing numbers are valid and can be used as a potency?
Not that it matters that much, since I'm pretty sure they still have some soul manip resis neg.
Not that it matters that much, since I'm pretty sure they still have some soul manip resis neg.
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It’s something about how they can soul hax like, billions of life forms. And soul/mind hax is treated as, the more resistances/people they can affect,the stronger. It’s one of the strongest soul hax and soul resist.
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Edit: I don’t think they have any soul manipulation resistance negation as far as I am aware.
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Wait, was there actual proof for this kind of thing? I not sure if any of the mods or admins agree with that for that matter.
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Numbers potency doesn't matter much anymore when it comes to mind/soul hax
Overcoming layers of resistance is the default way of determining potency now, it doesn't change anything for Bleach though, in fact, it arguably makes soul crush even stronger given how many times layers of resistance are overcome within the verse.
Rikimarox2
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Well, there goes any chance of Vegito winning.
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billions of life forms? well in DB almost everything is co-related with AP, Hakai probably is too. Resisting Hakai should count as soul manip resistance. And if Hakai scales to AP then it's Low 2-C level soul resis and translating that to DB Heroes it's 2-A.
So basically, what you're saying is the potency doesn't matter just so long as the scale of it is more grand? thats kinda iffy.
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What even is a 2-c level soul resist. Also, the numbers stuff was recently made irrelevant in a staff thread that I didn’t know about
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If dead goku squared up against Yhwach would Soul Crush just be EE?
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