they're pretty even skill wise except Veggeta can do more than just big beam go brrrrr
Frieza gives him the hardest assignments
Kid Vegeta is kinda just a blank slate given how he only had two minutes of screen time in a 48 minute long film. The only combat techniques Vegeta demonstrated in his squash match against the Saibamen were generic ki attacks (A few finger beams and an explosive wave).
Unlike with Kid Goku, we don’t even know if Vegeta had his signature techniques as a kid, not to mention even if he somehow knew them, Dirty Fireworks is extremely OOC for Vegeta as he only used it like once in the whole series (Toriyama forgot)
Kid Vegeta shouldn't be too far off from his adult self considering he doesn't really get training from anyone else. He probably has most if not all of his techniques from when he was a kid
Literally like 20+ years of extra battling, adapting, experience and more. Absolutely no reason to even assume he's even half as good as his adult self.
Just like he used it on the fodder he fought in the saiyana saga? Or those fodder saibamen?
And? AP doesn't dictate skill. Roshi would skill **** dozens of characters that are literally decillions of times stronger than himself. Chi-Chi while not strong does have actual martial prowess, and training him basically every day since he was a small child is gonna build up fast.
That isn't even remotely a safe thing to say? You're comparing a literal child Vegeta with Vegeta 20 years later and assuming not much happened in those 20+ years and that he just has everything his adult self rolled up with.
Vegeta bodied several Saibamen simultaneously, each of which here able to briefly keep up with Toeiverse Yamcha, who is comparable to if not superior to Trunks skill-wise, as well as Chi Chi, who trained Goten, who's inferior to Trunks. Then again, Vegeta does tend to abuse his power and speed advantage, but he should at the bare minimum be comparable if not superior to said Saibamen
As Chariot mentioned earlier, Saibamen are nothing but complete fodder. You left out the part where Yamcha easily defeated and out-skilled one of them, only losing because he let his guard down. Yamcha can't even hold a candle to Kid Trunks, you ignored my previous comment where I said Gohan also trained Goten, Gohan being the same guy who Goku and Piccolo taught, the same guy who could fight on par alongside Krillin on Namek and the same guy who was able to surprise the likes of Cell and Frieza.
This is what Dirty Fireworks looks like in the anime and these are the two techniques Kid Vegeta used in his two minutes of screentime. I said earlier that were ki blasts and an explosive wave; techniques literally any ki user can perform, including Trunks.
And then die himself? He needs oxygen.
Toei Vegeta spend most of the Garlic Jr. Saga in space lel
Holding your breath for hours is basically the same as Self-Sustenance at that point lel
The only evidence we have for Toei Saiyans not having Type 1 Self-Sustenance is Frieza's statement, no?
Pretty sure Vegeta could survive in space for hours
Saibamen were still able to throw hands with and suplex yeet Yamcha during that fight. Sure, Yamcha outskills, but the Saibamen are still somewhat relative to him due to that
