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Vegeta vs Ichibei (15-15-1)

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Concept hax for the win

I single hit or vegeta blocking means what he used to block is 50% less power, if he is painted with the brush overall loses 50%. if painted black in shikai he loses all powers
 
Vegeta can legit just explode ichibei internally with dirty fireworks.
That isn't in character for this Vegeta. I have never seen him use it since Namek, and he is also far less ruthless than that one.

Honestly this match should probably get put on hold because Ichibei is getting massive upgrades once the end of this cour happens.
 
bro the range gap is too far for vegeta
ichibe has enough time to conceptually slam vegeta because of the range gap
 
What's preventing Ichibe from taking away Vegeta's power? It's specifically noted to on his profile that Vegeta allows his opponents to reach their full power and give him a good fight
He also seeks strong opponents, and will therefore allow his opponents to reach their full power for the sake of a good fight
All Ichibe needs to do is land the tiniest bit of ink on him, something easily achievable with equal speed.
 
Vegeta's power is 2-C
i think thats the argument
Vegeta can one shot with AP, and Ichibe can win by landing his ink on Vegeta, but of the two, Vegeta is insanely arrogant and known to hold back for various reasons, Ichibe isn't.
 
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What's preventing Ichibe from taking away Vegeta's power? It's specifically noted to on his profile that Vegeta allows his opponents to reach their full power and give him a good fight

All Ichibe needs to do is land the tiniest bit of ink on him, something easily achievable with equal speed.
Vegeta doesn't really do that anymore, he didn't allow broly to power up and he straight up just finished him without letting him evolve even tho he's also a saiyan. And ichibei isn't getting any ink on vegeta lets be fr for a second. Vegeta can deadass just flex his aura or hit him with standard ki blast and vaporize him. One of ichibei's first moves on yhwach was to use the giant hands, even standard ki blast is going to rip through any of ichibei's defenses and just kill him. Let's not forget he killed ginyu right off the bat. Vegeta isn't getting hit with the brush because of his ki barrier, and just the passive aura around his body. Vegeta has far greater versatility and range just because of the sheer amount of projectiles and destruction he can cause. Not to mention he can still use dirty fireworks.
 
Vegeta doesn't really do that anymore, he didn't allow broly to power up and he straight up just finished him without letting him evolve even tho he's also a saiyan. And ichibei isn't getting any ink on vegeta lets be fr for a second. Vegeta can deadass just flex his aura or hit him with standard ki blast and vaporize him. One of ichibei's first moves on yhwach was to use the giant hands, even standard ki blast is going to rip through any of ichibei's defenses and just kill him. Let's not forget he killed ginyu right off the bat. Vegeta isn't getting hit with the brush because of his ki barrier, and just the passive aura around his body. Vegeta has far greater versatility and range just because of the sheer amount of projectiles and destruction he can cause. Not to mention he can still use dirty fireworks.
Vegeta instantly seeing that they are trying to kill him would not hesitate for even 2 seconds to kill the opponent
 
Ichibe doesn't have to hit him with the brush. He can remove his name merely by manipulating the black already on him, which he does to Yhwach here. Ichibe strips him of everything and negs.
That wasn't his first move, unless you want me to argue vegeta just uses dirty fireworks.
 
His first move is Ichimonji lol. You guys were just wrong about how it works, which is why you're (completely Ad Hoc, mind you) shifting to a new argument.
 
His first move is Ichimonji lol. You guys were just wrong about how it works, which is why you're (completely Ad Hoc, mind you) shifting to a new argument.
His first move when he released it was to literally bum rush and clash with yhwach, that is when he covered his sword with ink. Only a bit later does he actually use the black on yhwach, after letting yhwach get off sankt altar lol.
 
Vegeta doesn't really do that anymore, he didn't allow broly to power up and he straight up just finished him without letting him evolve even tho he's also a saiyan. And ichibei isn't getting any ink on vegeta lets be fr for a second. Vegeta can deadass just flex his aura or hit him with standard ki blast and vaporize him. One of ichibei's first moves on yhwach was to use the giant hands, even standard ki blast is going to rip through any of ichibei's defenses and just kill him. Let's not forget he killed ginyu right off the bat. Vegeta isn't getting hit with the brush because of his ki barrier, and just the passive aura around his body. Vegeta has far greater versatility and range just because of the sheer amount of projectiles and destruction he can cause. Not to mention he can still use dirty fireworks.
He did allow Broly to get stronger and stronger by holding back, that's why Vegeta started fighting him in base form, then eventually used Super Saiyan, then Super Saiyan God and finally Super Saiyan Blue, Vegeta has since the beginning of the manga purposefully held back in order to allow his opponents to get stronger and then gradually match their power level, that is still the case, which is why it's still on his DBS profile.

But if the part I highlighted in your post is true, then it's just a stomp, Ichibe can't do anything if his attacks get passively repelled.
 
His first move when he released it was to literally bum rush and clash with yhwach, that is when he covered his sword with ink. Only a bit later does he actually use the black on yhwach, after letting yhwach get off sankt altar lol.
So yes... he used Ichimonji?
 
So yes... he used Ichimonji?
Yeah and if he tries to rush vegeta with the blade, he's getting negged by vegeta's passive aura or a ki blast barrage. It doesn't matter which one. The point is that he didn't use the black already on yhwach until a bit later in the fight, and ichibei let yhwach get off sankt altar.
 
Yeah and if he tries to rush vegeta with the blade, he's getting negged by vegeta's passive aura or a ki blast barrage. It doesn't matter which one. The point is that he didn't use the black already on yhwach until a bit later in the fight, and ichibei let yhwach get off sankt altar.
His aura or blasts touch any ink they lose their powers. Also equal speed, he uh dodges

By "Later in the fight" you mean the exact same chapter. Ichibe absorbs black from his surroundings from the beginning of his release. Him fighting Yhwacvh isn;t a compelling reason to think this won't work.
 
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