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We usually don't give lifting strength feats for creating storms
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Updated Lugia calc
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Although it more counts as Lugia's flapping rotating the storm with that force than exactly creating it
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So Lugia and Ho-Oh get downgraded to High 6-C+, the Legendary Birds and Legendary Beasts and any Pokemon that scales to them get downgraded to High 6-C (496.68/3 = 165.56 Gigatons), and Lugia and Ho-Oh get an LS upgrade to Class T
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That means pretty much all side legendaries become High 6-C
Though this is gonna end up changing with the canon split anyway
Though this is gonna end up changing with the canon split anyway
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Could I get the link for this?
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Why are Celebi and Shaymin profiles not allowed to be updated to this change?
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Probably because we were unaware about them
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I did try to update Shaymin but I was rejected even after I presented the new calc.
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Doesn't look rejected to me: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Shaymin?action=history
Maybe bring @TWILIGHT-OP here to say something
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Well cause I just made the changes now, though I would prefer not to do this all by myself.
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Annnnd done with the 6B downgrade on the Pokémon side. I PRAY that it doesn’t get reverted again. I’m not gonna do the trainers’ side cause that looks honestly very tedious, so preferably someone else should do it.
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Wouldn't this also downgrade Smash Bros?
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I don't think so?
ShockingPsychic
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Smash Bros uses the Lugia calc for it's High 6-A stats, so I imagine it would
EDIT: I'm stupid. Smash uses the Reshiram calc, not the Lugia calc. My apolgies
EDIT: I'm stupid. Smash uses the Reshiram calc, not the Lugia calc. My apolgies
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To be honest, Johto legendaries are treated weirdly. Box art legendaries seem to be automatically scaled to Lugia's storm calc but meanwhile Lugia is not scaled to any other box art legendary's feats, not even the one a Lugia is specifically shown fighting against. And meanwhile the legendary beasts are scaled to the legendary birds without much justification.
I'd also like to ask, why does Hoopa's Variable tier seem to exist only so that the Lugia in that movie doesn't get scaled to him? If a specific Pikachu can scale to universal threats, why not a specific interdimensional Lugia specifically picked as the champion on the good Hoopa?
I'd also like to ask, why does Hoopa's Variable tier seem to exist only so that the Lugia in that movie doesn't get scaled to him? If a specific Pikachu can scale to universal threats, why not a specific interdimensional Lugia specifically picked as the champion on the good Hoopa?
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Because
Because people don't like the scaling inconsistencies caused by that movie. The beasts thing is kinda weird but I think there was a trainer with all three birds and beasts maybe that could be used as evidence.
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I've never liked that Hoopa movie at all.
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