Universal DMC: Final Conclusions

[Kepekley23]

Should the 3-A feat be attributed to The Chaos or the Despair Embodied?

 

[Ogbunabali]

Despair Embodied 100%, but I'm unsure about the Chaos. Probably not though.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i think the first key considering that's likely the one doing the feat first before transforming into the despair embodied And still got whooped

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Actually, it should be for his first form, the Despair only appeared to fight Dante and it was even more powerful than before

 

[Ogbunabali]

Wasn't blob Argosax, not even Argosax technically, rather then his seal or something like that? Or am I just miss remembering DMC2.

 

[Maxnumb231]

Wasn't blob Argosax, not even Argosax technically, rather then his seal or something like that? Or am I just miss remembering DMC2.

The blob argosax is not real. Because that blob is multiple demons in one area which they were basically a sacrifice for his revival

 

[Meshifuari_Arimota]

Wasn't blob Argosax, not even Argosax technically, rather then his seal or something like that? Or am I just miss remembering DMC2.

According to his file as blob...

"This king once ruled most of the demon world and subdued all the demons, but was defeated by Sparda"

According to his file as flame guy/girl...

"Possessing an androgynous perfect body and awesome dignity, he is sometimes worshipped."

 

[Lightning_XXI]

The "Blob Argosax" is called Argosax the Chaos, yeah it's actually him

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

If we are going to make both of Argosax's keys 3-A, should we merge them while we're at it? IMO it'd be pretty redundant

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

But they are different, why put them in the same key?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

''shrugs'' Dunno. Perhaps we can leave it at that.

 

[Maxnumb231]

The "Blob Argosax" is called Argosax the Chaos, yeah it's actually him

Actually thats false because that blob form has multiple demon in them.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Maxnumb231

That doesn't mean anything.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

the thing is that its literally called argosax the chaos... that's literally in its name

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Guys, here's the deal about Savior:

- He had Devil Sword Sparda, but due to his lack of humanity, he couldn't use the full power of that sword, based on this, I think we should scale him to Sid, since both of them had the power of a God Tier but they got a nerf

But Dante should destroy him the

If Dante did that, he would kill Nero and Kyrie, so no

But this would scale to Arkham

No, he had the FORCE EDGE, a sealed version of the Devil Sword Sparda, and also rejected his humanity so...no

If 7-A doesn't fit him, then "At least 7-B" should work

 

[Ogbunabali]

He doesn't scale to 3-A, he should stay at the tier he was before 7-B I think. And Dante Demon Killah, it's "Universal" not "Universal Class" for striking strength.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Ogbunabali

Don't think he said Saviour would scale to 3-A

 

[Lightning_XXI]

The page for Striking Strengh says "Tier here Class"

 

[Assembled1801]

Would Dante and other characters be next after Nero and Vergil?

 

[Ogbunabali]

Pretty sure it's just Universal, as other characters and in the page itself if you scroll down you'll see it's without the Class.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I need Dante's profile unlocked to do the changes

@Ogbu, can you show me where it says it's just Universal ?

Edit: nevermind, I'm stupid

 

[Ogbunabali]

You can just scroll down.


And what about Lifting Strength, do we upgrade that as well to Universal?

 

[Dienomite22]

Don't think lifting strength will be universal.

 

[Assembled1801]

Oh yeah, Dante's profile is locked. You need to ask the mod to unlock the edit.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

I think the god tiers should just be relativistic Dante speed blitz argosax at the end of the fight plus

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Lifting strength doesn't scale to Striking strength

Ogbu, I edited the profiles, thanks o/

 

[Dienomite22]

Yeah, God tiers should be at least relativistic in movement speed and combat speed

 

[Ogbunabali]

I disagree. Nero barely kept up with a truck, and in general they have never displayed that high movement speeds.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

That was pre devil trigger Nero and that would be pis

 

[Dienomite22]

@Obgunabali

That's pure PIS even without relativistic speed.

Relativistic comes from Dante deflecting Mundus's partical beam and then in DMC2 when Dante blitz'd the Despair Embodied to the point he looked invisible and Despair Embodied would have relativistic reactions.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Aaaand we did it guys, DMC finally reclaim its position and proofing it more than ever.

What will be suck is the match variety will be slightly decreased since 3-A is.....uncommon to find? And incoming DB vs DMC which is too mainstream so yeah.....

Alright, enough talking here lel

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I'm not really sold on fully scaling characters to a reaction speed feat tbh.

 

[Ogbunabali]

None of those are movement speeds though.

 

[Assembled1801]

They still need to upgrade Dante.

 

[Dienomite22]

This would be relativistic movement speed due to scaling.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Looks like Kep is updating Dante.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

It has been 1 year 6 months 30 days 20 hours 23 minutes and 21 seconds since dmc was 3-A

 

[Huesito88]

"Aaaand we did it guys, DMC finally reclaim its position and proofing it more than ever."

Against who God of War? Oh wait....

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

This would be relativistic movement speed due to scaling.

Nah, I think it's more of a combat speed feat

 

[Ogbunabali]

That's combat speed.